Template talk:Major fortresses of Western Russia

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My numerous beefs with the template:

• Poor coding
  • Clear:right; is preferable to unnecessary line breaks
  • a single text-align:center;" is preferable to repeating needlessly align=center for every cell
  • A width definition is preferable to margins, and more commona cross wikipedia.
  • there is absolutely no need to have the comment be inserted in every page as it is specifically intended only for the template page.

• There is no apparent reason to have a category in the template. the category would be just as well put independantly.
• The link in the header was misleading as implying an article limited to western Russia. Unless Kremlin actually is, but I doubt that, and can't really tell anyway.
• No background color in the header, unlike 90% of wikipedia footers
• Picture enlarging header unnecesssarily, at the very least it should be reduced and move in the content section of the footer.
• 80% is unnecearily small for a simple footer like this. Most wikipedia footers do very well with 90%

Now I'd like to know why you reverted the entire thing (including a totally legit categorization uunder category:Russian navigational boxes) instead of just adjusting what you weren't happy with (which appears to me to be only the comment's location and the image). Circeus 15:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your rationale seems good to me, except the removal of the picture. And of course the template is limited to Western fortresses: neither Derbent nor Kazan Kremlin nor Tobolsk have nothing to do with it. Including oriental border fortresses in one template with the European ones makes no sense whatsoever. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 15:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've put back my version with the pic spanning both rows. I actually think it looks very good that way, even though I'm not a big fan of pictures in footers. Circeus 18:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It looks much better this way. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 09:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the image with another one that looks more appealing to me, at least at high resolution. Feel free to revert if you disagree, however. Conscious 13:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]