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I just wanted to drop a quick apology. You were right; I failed to see the existing refs in the table caption. I'm sorry for assuming that your addition was uncited just because you weren't adding any refs at the time. Happy editing! – voidxor ^{(talk | contrib)} 18:15, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Mooiloop! ^-^ -- André Kritzinger (talk) 19:49, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoa, Stefan2, I only uploaded the picture 34 minutes ago! It'll take a little longer than that to edit the article... -- André Kritzinger (talk) 22:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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See the deletion log on File:Kadetkorpsmedalje.jpg. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 01:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please could I ask you for a favour? On the page I just created, Luvuyo Nobanda, I have listed medals. I cannot identify the first one from the photo. BoonDock (talk) 15:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe that new medal that was dished out a few weeks ago to everyone involved in the Mandela funeral? I haven't seen any images of it yet. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 15:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Photo is old. It was my first thought too. BoonDock (talk) 16:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Andre, Isn't there another license under which these images can be added? This deletion of images is ridiculous. BoonDock (talk) 21:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No need, BoonDock, it won't be deleted unless it's unused in any article for more than seven days. Most of the articles that I uploaded such images for lately required a virtual rewrite, and Stefan2 has a hair-trigger and tags the images long before I'm done with editing the relevant article to add the picture. His present record is 30 minutes after upload, while I prefer the "several previews and one edit" way over the "multiple edit" way wherever possible. ^_^ So, unless one of the 7 stents in my heart fails or I run out of coffee before next Tuesday, it probably won't be a problem. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 22:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ROTLMAO. Hair trigger indeed! BoonDock (talk) 22:21, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andre. I saw your reverted some edits I made on the page 1993 in South Africa. I have left a comment on the page's discussion page to talk about this as I feel it is important to resolve it before any more changes are made relating to this issue. Thanks, --Discott (talk) 12:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andre, I'm getting frustrated with the discussion on Talk:1993 in South Africa. We seem to be going around in a circle. Do you think it justifies an RFC on that talk page? BoonDock (talk) 08:07, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest we wait until the twelve examples materialise before we involve the rest of the planet. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 10:50, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. Never happen. In the mean time, see List of terrorist incidents, 1993 BoonDock (talk) 11:18, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the meantime, I believe it's time to start adding the {{WikiProject Terrorism}} tag so some SA articles. I've kicked it off with Talk:Saint James Church massacre. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 11:41, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi André Kritzinger, hi BoonDock, I am fully supportive of putting up an RFC on the talk page although I do feel this is a pretty clear cut issue. I have been inviting people to join that conversation who I feel might be knowledgeable about it and be able to make a useful contribution so I am fully supportive of you doing like wise as well.--Discott (talk) 07:38, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ja, right, I saw. And the first one out of the blocks tells us the 9/11 article's lead needs to be rewritten to suit (I bet that will happen in a hurry...) and should not serve as example. May as well invite Patsy de Lille to comment as well, given her roots.

The issue is pretty clear to me as well. At the time, in 1993, I was sitting in boardrooms for a large part of the year and getting to know representatives from six of the eventual seven constituent military forces, to discuss the way forward to create the SANDF. The spirit was, for the most part, one of cautious goodwill, and in the middle of all this, these terrorists decided to go ape on soft targets.

(Still waiting for the twelve examples.) -- André Kritzinger (talk) 12:25, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you are expecting 12 examples nor do I know what you are expecting 12 examples of. Also, why twelve exampls and not some other number, 12 is quite a lot? Depending on what examples you are looking for it also might not be at all necessary to give any examples.--Discott (talk) 08:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Twelve is a dozen, that's why, Discott. A dozen examples of the (pre-1994 SA) Army killing women and children in a place of worship. See the wild (actually slanderous) statement by Thuvack on Talk:1993 in South Africa on 28 January: "...the army could easily fit the definition of a terrorist organization if the bench mark to be used is killing women and children in a place of worship. I could give you a dozen examples to prove this point." I'm still waiting. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 13:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you would have to take that up with Thuvack to get these examples. Even if examples are produced I am not convinced of its relevance to the topic being discussed which is the use of the term "terrorist" as that has already been addressed in editor guide manuals and policies around NPOV. --Discott (talk) 08:13, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Here we go gain. Maybe we should create a graphic rather? BoonDock (talk) 16:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just not worth the hassle in this case, as with the Cape campaign clasps. See the main picture of the article. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 18:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nineteen minutes. Well done, Stefan2, that's a new record! -- André Kritzinger (talk) 18:09, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I have no problem with it being in the article, but I figured I would standardize it with all of the other lists that list "United States" as a section header. Let me know if there is a movement that is against this idea, as I would also support changing it back if it has been decided that that should be the proper way to note it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No movement that I know of, just my own preference really, in an article that covers multiple countries. Don't tell anyone, but my argument for full country titles actually falls flat as being cumbersome when it comes to The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which was even longer in bygone days. Keep well! -- André Kritzinger (talk) 23:01, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I actually prefer the 1977-era name of Libya, Al-Jamahiriya al-`Arabiyah al-Libiyah ash-Sha`biyah al-Ishtirakiyah al-Uzma, although the spelling of it varies from place to place, and it probably is not being used anymore. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:37, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Andre:
1. By reverting the edits on the medal articles, you are also restoring the Checkwiki error #73: "ISBN-13 with wrong checksum". How do you propose to fix it?
2. Do you have a valid ISSN or ISBN for the Republic of South Africa Government Gazette? I couldn't find one.
In short, I don't think your reverts are the solution to the problem.
Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 12:53, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Knife-in-the-drawer, the number is exactly as it appears on the document, which I have in hand. Nothing to indicate whether it's ISBN or ISSN or something else, just a barcode with the number 9771682584003 (no spaces or dashes) below the barcode at left, and 27376 (the gazette number) above the barcode at right. I've also seen the whole document online in .pdf format, but damned if I can find it again... -- André Kritzinger (talk) 13:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Knife-in-the-drawer, I searched but couldn't find it online again. But I found this: Gazette no. 32898. There are more, all with the same long number. It seems the number 9771682584003 is generic for SA Gazettes, with only the gazette numbers that change. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 13:36, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmft... Looks like the document I came across was an April Fool's scam. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 13:44, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Andre Kritzinger:
It's good you have it in hand--that takes care of the verification. :-)
I don't like the number "9771682584003" as an ISBN (even though it has 13 digits) for two reasons:
According to the Wiki article "International Standard Book Number#Overview"
for a 13-digit ISBN, a prefix element - a GS1 prefix: so far 978 or 979 have been made available
Thus, "977" is not a valid prefix.
|When I run the number through [Book sources], it passes as valid (that's good). However, Google Book Search, Amazon.com, WorldCat, and most importantly all four South Africa sources return "No match found".
In other words, the number is not useful for readers of the articles to find a copy of the document.}}
I don't like the number "9771682584003" as an ISSN, which the article claims it is, for one reason:
The correct format of an ISSN is nnnn-nnnn. That's not the format of our "9771682584003".}}
If you agree, here's what I propose...
For each of the articles, change
"ISSN 9771682584003 27376"
to
"In the document, the printed identification number is 9771682584003."
We don't need to write the "27376" a second time because it's already specified in the citation here:
" Vol. 477, no. 27376".
Most importantly (for me :-)--no more Checkwiki error #73.
Do you agree? If yes, who makes the changes--you or me? Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 14:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It will appear in about 140 articles, as ISBN in all but the four that you edited and I reverted. If you can do it with a bot, please go ahead. I'm no good with bots so I'll have to do them one by one. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 14:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Andre Kritzinger:

I made our agreed-upon change to the four articles that got reverted plus the article that you reverted manually (poor Andre Kritzinger :-(.

Regarding the other 136 articles :-), can I add it to my "To Dos" list? I've got 1,135 more ISBN errors to fix. Seriously.

It was nice corresponding with you. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 16:30, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No rush. Meanwhile I'll fix the ones I come across as I work on them. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 17:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Knife-in-the-drawer, I believe I came across an answer: OCLC 72827981. Someone added that into Louw Wepener Decoration many moons ago. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 00:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Andre Kritzinger: If that's what you want to go with, I'll change the five articles. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 04:05, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not THE answer yet, since it's a generic page, not leading to the specific document. That'll turn up again, I'm sure. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 11:28, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Andre Kritzinger. You recently removed a sentence on the page 2015 in South Africa in which it was stated that the newly-elected Mmusi Maimane is the first black leader of the Democratic Alliance, claiming that it was "racist" and irrelevant. Innumerable reliable secondary sources ^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]} (nearly all, in fact) that covered the election stated this fact somewhere in their articles. Saying that Maimane's racial background is irrelevant is like claiming that it is irrelevant that Barack Obama is the first African-American President of the United States, or that it is irrelevant that Margaret Thatcher was the first and only female British Prime Minister. I strongly disagree with you on this matter, and look forward to hearing your response. Many thanks, Knyzna1 (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

His colour is irrelevant. His ability is not, however. Same with Obama and Thatcher. And Mandela. Mentioning their colour or gender as "events" is actually racist/sexist and should be considered an insult to them, since it makes one wonder whether they were elected because they were able, or because they were coloured/female. And since all the sources you quote are media, here's my opinion, for what its worth:

One of South Africa's (and the world's) biggest problems is the media who stirs the racism pot at every opportunity. So what if Maimane is black?

When I look at Maimane, I don't see black. I see a young man that has, so far, impressed me.

When I look at Zuma and Malema and Mugabe, however, I DO see black, because the blackness is in their hearts, minds and attitudes. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 19:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Personal feelings and attitudes aside, I still assert that his racial background is relevant and should be included in this article - the fact is mentioned in the article on Mmusi Maimane. Also, note that the lead sentence of each of the articles on Mandela, Margaret Thatcher and Obama (all of which have either GA or FA status) clearly state their racial background, or gender in Thatcher's case, as being notable. Knyzna1 (talk) 04:53, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Leave the genders or colours in the respective biographical articles then, where it belongs. In the year articles, a short sentence on their achievements/progress/appointments to date is more appropriate than their physical appearance, since in spite of what the media would attempt to lead one to consider as "important", he was elected on the grounds of his past performance and abilities, not his colour. (I'm copying this whole discussion to the year's talk page, where this debate is relevant.) -- André Kritzinger (talk) 11:29, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If the Accumulated Campaign Service Medal is not a campaign medal in that case, clearly by that rationale it should be removed from the campaign medal template and inserted on another template. So I shall do so. Hammersfan (talk) 14:11, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Hammersfan: Correct. Thank you. -- André Kritzinger (talk) 16:49, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Andre Kritzinger:

I finally got some time to work on the "Republic of South Africa Government Gazette Vol. 477, no. 27376 ISBN 9771682584003" situation. Here's what I found:

• There are no more instances of ISBN 9771682584003 left on Wikipedia; I fixed the last one this week when it showed up on a Checkwiki error listing.

• Given your previous description of the location of "9771682584003" in the hardcopy--"below the barcode at left"--it's probably an EAN, not an ISBN.

I tried "9771682584003" in {{EAN}} and {{UPC}}. The EAN / UPC databases both say that "9771682584003" is valid, but neither database has an entry for it.

• On Wikipedia, there are 160 instances of OCLC 72827981.

• Only the six citations that I fixed contain the sentence "In the document, the printed identification number is 9771682584003."

• The Bad News: OCLC 72827981 is probably not the best page at WorldCat for Republic of South Africa Government Gazette. Much better is OCLC 31578734 because its page specifies an ISSN and it lists many more libraries where the gazette can be found.

They are "your" 160 articles, so you can decide how to handle the situation. Here are a variety of possibilities:

• Replace every instance of OCLC 72827981 with OCLC 31578734

1. Goes to a specific page on WorldCat
2. Will require a bot run

• Replace every instance of OCLC 72827981 with ISSN 0250-4391

1. An ISSN for periodicals like Republic of South Africa Government Gazette is the equivalent of an ISBN for a book. It's internationally recognized.
2. Goes the an index page on WorldCat
3. Will require a bot run

• Add the sentence "In the document, the printed identification number is 9771682584003." to the 154 articles that don't already include it. Will require a bot run.

Note: I'm guessing that the ISSN is printed in the hardcopy, too....

• Delete the sentence from the six articles that already include it. Can be done manually.

• Do nothing

• Another possibility that you conceive

Please leave a note on my Talk page to let me know what you decide. If a bot run is required, we'll discuss that step next. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 05:03, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, rather than writing the same citation 160 times, you might want to create a Category:Specific-source templates. You create the template ONE time and transclude it 160 times. Then, if any changes are necessary, you simply edit the template, and the change is automatically propagated through all 160 citations. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 07:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ja, I should have made a template. I did with the main sources for all the locomotive articles I created/worked on, but since I didn't plan to do all the medal articles but just the few in whose institution I was involved, I didn't bother. Then things got out of hand and I did the whole kaboodle. I prefer a manual edit instead of a bot, though, since in the process I usually find other things that require tweaking as well. Will get to it soonish. Thanks. André Kritzinger (talk) 12:21, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You need to reconsider the number of items included in article South African locomotive history. I came there due to an Icelandic volcano! See the now three editors that think this is far far too much 'context'. I was having problems loading the page it is so large. Shenme (talk) 05:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andre, I have been looking through WP for a reasonable image for the ED, but unsuccessfully. There are any number on the web, but ownership is the issue. Do you have access to one? If not, I might be able to photograph one in a rack of WW2 medals, but it will be through glass (I'm not prepared to dismount the pieces)and I'm not sure how well it will present. Pity you couldn't use the image of the GV Colonial Auxiliary Medal (it was my grandfathers, I took some pleasure in having it in WP).Lexysexy (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in the process of manufacturing pictures right now and I'll be tackling the ED article again tomorrow - it's one of about five remaining on my to-do list. (With some trepidation, since it looks like a complicated one.) The EM after that, and that one looks even more complicated. Those pictures were great, if only the ribbons were somewhat longer. If you can upload new versions with longer ribbons, I'll stitch them together and put it back in. Bedtime now, it's getting close to 03:00 here. André Kritzinger (talk) 00:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. I'll need a couple of days, it's school holidays here, and I'm on entertainment duty for a while. I'll try to find a starker background also. I'll try the WW2 rack experiment as well.Lexysexy (talk) 07:00, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Efficiency Decoration is done. It took some time since the ructions around the excess height of the South African Class Afro 4000 got in the way. André Kritzinger (talk) 19:28, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andre, I've produced the new photos, but I haven't uploaded them. Is there any way I can email you directly with them, rather than sending them up and then having them not used?Lexysexy (talk) 03:18, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need to fill in all the correct symbols along the way, but grela followed by iafrica and then the com will do the trick. André Kritzinger (talk) 12:19, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I've completed your requested move of Volunteer Reserve Decoration to Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve. However, note that you are able to move pages over existing titles without admin help as long as they are a single-revision redirect to the page being moved (which this one was). Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:17, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I didn't know that. (Plus I was being extra careful after a recent incident with the Cape Colony and the Cape of Good Hope...) André Kritzinger (talk) 17:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like an interesting topic. You should concider writing an article on the topic, because it looks like you have the information and few other countries have so many information on railway electrification. Consider this when you find some time.--176.104.110.11 (talk) 12:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: this revert, first of all, I know almost nothing about trains, and maybe 'front of loc, to the left' is a standard way to refer to wheel layout diagrams. However, in ordinary English 'to the left' is fairly meaningless (except 'could you move to the left', or 'his house is to the left of mine', both of which still beg the question 'whose left?'). Being able to see the wheels means one is looking from left or right, and not looking at the front at all. I think we both understand that this is a diagramatic representation of wheels as they would be seen by someone looking FROM a position directly left of the locomotive. I leave you, who clearly does know about trains, to decide what is clear.Pincrete (talk) 18:15, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ps … semi-apology, I suddenly realise the meaning may be 'Front of locomotive is to the left of this diagram' , ie it is not describing viewing point, rather how to read diagram, if I'm now right, apologies, but I still think the English is a bit unclear.Pincrete (talk) 07:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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30 seconds into this video, I suspect it is a 6B or 6E, but am not completely sure. --NJR_ZA (talk) 16:55, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No way to tell, and really not worth bothering with to attempt to identify, in my opinion. Mooiloop! André Kritzinger (talk) 17:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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