User talk:BobClive

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --Ragib 06:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome!!--Dwaipayanc 08:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add your user signature inside articles. Thanks. --Ragib 09:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1. Please either stop making these changes to the article or explain them.

2. When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

   

   The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

   Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you.

   --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

go ahead.--Bellayet (talk) 14:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, You are most welcome to change or modify Barkatullah with authentic facts. burdak 12:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, again!--BobClive 14:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ho! We discussed the deletion of the Indian Freedom dighters category deletion You can participate in the talks that rae going on for de-deletion of that category ot renaming of it. The talks are going on in Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics#Freedom_fighters_on_CfD.

I am taking a break of some days from wikipedia. Will be back soon. However, I shall keep an eye in this thing. The administrator who happened to delete the category following the proposal to delete has been contacted. So we can hope for a speedy decision. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I do not consult this page regularly, I did not see your note earlier. Of course I want that this category is restored to its initial form. All the best.--BobClive 09:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Image:Madam Bhikaiji Cama.jpg was uploaded by user:Bhadani. Perhaps you'd want to contact him? The image is in PD, so it's free to use. =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be sending you an e-mail, as also scanned pages of an article on Madam Cama. However, please give me some time - say the coming Sunday. --Bhadani 13:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great to learn that you know six languages of India. Fantastic! Which are they? --Bhadani 13:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Bob, you are most welcome to send me your reply through wiki e-mail by following the link on the right. I shall send you my reply and comments, as also the scanned pages about Madam Cama from a book by Sunday next. Regards. --Bhadani 16:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

==Please Use Edit Summaries==

Tawker 07:18, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I have categorised the 2 new article created by you (Dilip Roy and Bhababhushan Mitra). Please check. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BobClive, nice to see your msg. on my talkpage. I've had a look at the article and I don't see any problem as such. Were you refering to the clean-up tag? I don't think it is an insinuation - it is actually an invitation to other editors to improve the article. The advantage of Wikipedia is that several editors can work on an article simultaneously, thus reducing the time required for refining it. This also exposes your work to a wider cross-section of people, thus enriching your editing capabilities. I do agree that the work may get derailed sometimes due to differences, but I don't see such a situation here. Do let me know if I am missing something. --Gurubrahma 09:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No need to intimate any one, feel free to edit WP as you deem fit. If you mess up, people would be there to correct and let you know. Your contribution is recorded here automatically. You may want to use edit summary such as "expanded" etc. --Gurubrahma 08:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BobClive, It is nice contribution by you on Barkatulla. In fact there is a University in his name in Bhopal. But people did not have much ideas about him so I started a stub on him. Nice informations and article on great freedom fighter. burdak 07:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BobClive, tell me the pages/articles you want to link with Barkatullah image. Thanks. --burdak 10:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry to tell that it won't be possible to have a look after 8th. Because my exam has been posrponed to 13th June!! Have to study :( Will see after that. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks/Merci.

Greetings to you too on the 59th Independence Day of India!

JAI HIND.

--Victor 10:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BobClive, thanks for your greetings, I am bit late. I am yet in search of portarait of Barkatullah. --burdak 16:44, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi/Salut!
Please sign your posts on talk pages. See Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. I had to search up and down all of Wikipedia to reply on your page.
Thanks/Merci. --Victor 11:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Mukto is more appropriate as Free doesn't refer "Freedom" exactly, rather it refers to Open-ness, the open nature of Wikipedia. At the same time, it is a synonym for Freedom as well. Swadhin only refers to independence, which is not exactly correct for wikipedia.

But thanks for visiting bn-wiki. --Ragib 08:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

swa(oneself)+adhîn(subordinate to)-->swâdhîn (meaning "free" somewhat in the sense of "one's own master", with a great autonomy);

in mukto there is a touch of "having got rid of" : mukto karo bhoy-->bhoy("fear")+ mukto("liberated from"), similar to "chitto jéthâ bhoyshûnya"; remember, after a meal, for cleaning the table the verb that is utilised is mukto korâ. As soon as I shall resolve my problem of unicode, I shall be frequenting bn-wiki with more confidence. Thanks --BobClive 06:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About unicode, if you are using Windows, Avro is a good typing system for Bangla (and it installs the fonts, and gives a tutorial on how to turn on correct unicode rendering in XP). If you are using Linux, there are other places where you get this information. Thanks. --Ragib 06:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello sir! How are you? Its after a lo...ong gap I am editing in WP seriously. Sorry that I could not follow the case with the deletion of the Bagha Jatin Postage stamp. I still have the email u sent me with the image. I shall re-upload the image, and try to put the reason behind it being a usable image here in Wikipedia. In fact, it is after I received your message that I realised the image was deleted . I am very sorry for this. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A small comment on the usage of stamps. "Fair use stamp images" can only be used as "Fair use" to illustrate the stamp, NOT the subject depicted in the stamp. So, you cannot use a stamp image in the bio article, unless you are focusing on the stamp image itself (may be a paragraph, or several sentences on the stamp). Thanks. -Ragib 20:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now that Ragib has explained how the stamp could be used in the article, may I request you to please provide us with some information on the stamp, or its significance. As you are understanding, we cannot violate the copyright laws here... we should put fair reason to use the image of the stamp. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for your message. From what I gather, this article needs to be cleaned up and its links have to be fixed. As regards checking the veracity of the details provided, I can't be of much help because I do not have access to primary sources. However, if other sources are added in the talk page, then they could be included in the article. However, I would be willing to edit the article. Thanks, LordGulliverofGalben 20:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)User:LordGulliverofGalben(talk)[reply]

Wow, Bob, this one may be a bit over my head. I'm a bit tied up right now (the new high school football season has started, and that's a big deal at my newspaper), but I'll try to give it a go over the next few days. Realkyhick 06:11, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bob, I'm not going to have time to attend to this article myself, and that is probably just as well because the subject is way out of my league. It definitely needs rimming down, but I don't know what's important and what's not. I've just started a new Wikiproject called the Wikipedia Intensive Care Unit that might be just the place for this article. I'll tag it and see what some of my fellow "doctors" can do with it. Cheers! Realkyhick 06:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand the question, I believe <references/> like this was all that was missing. I removed the numbering from the bottom four since they didn't appear to have inline references. Seattlenow 21:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I put a link back in, just changed the wrong banglapedia URL to correct one. Anyone by all means put it how you think it should be and take the link out: you are obviously a serious interested editor and I am sure you know best. --BozMo talk 22:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings on the Republic Day of India. --Victor 19:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BobClive, I will post the image when available. burdak 15:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note: as above you are more than welcome to delete any link I changed if you don't agree with it --BozMo talk 12:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for including the information on the SAICE. Are you connected with it?--BobClive 08:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not. I'm actually not sure how I came across this article, to edit it. -- Zanimum 15:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Satish Chandra Mukherjee, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Realkyhick 08:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, whenever an editor has tagged an article of yours for speedy deletion do not remove the speedy-deletion tag if you want to appeal. Instead, add a {{hangon}} tag of your own; that lets administrators know that there is a dispute that he or she needs to moderate. Removing a speedy-delete tag is a serious violation of Wikipedia policy.

Having said all that, it is obvious now that there's enough here to warrant keeping this article. I've handled the "technical side" as much as I can, but there are many red links on names that do not have corresponding articles of their own. It is best to leave those there for now, as it indicates articles that need to be written on those people in the future. I also added some categories that I think this article belongs in, but given my lack of knowledge of Indian culture, there are likely some that I have missed. But I've done the best that I know. I hope this helps. Realkyhick 14:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It does. And I thank you for your quick and precious handling. I wish you had time to go through some of my other articles.--BobClive 16:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Prompt and pertinent" — I think that's the first time those compliments have ever been given to me. :-) Thanks! Realkyhick 16:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I got it. One reference had a missing </ref> closing tag, and another had a ")" instead of a ">". We're there any other issues? Realkyhick 08:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little confused as to what you mean by "being dogged," at least in the context of editing Wikipedia articles. Could you explain? (It may be because it's 3:55 a.m. my time — a bit of insomnia tonight.) Thanks for you rkind words. and do stop by Kentucky sometime. Alas, I live in Alabama now, but still get homesick. Realkyhick 08:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea how that could happen. The only thing that it could possibly be is the recent changes patrol, the folks who watch the feed of changes made in articles shortly after they are saved, to make sure that vandalism or other bad stuff doesn't last for long. I do something similar, except I usually restrict my patrols to brand new articles. That's plenty enough to keep me on my toes. Even so, there's not a real-time method of someone snooping while you edit, at least nothing I am aware of. It could be that your computer is running something else in the background (like an anti-virus scan) that is slowing things down and appearing to be someone interfering with your work. Just a guess. Realkyhick 09:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Got it fixed. All you needed to do was add a "References" section, then the tag that actually places the footnotes. Here's how it would be entered:

==References==
{{reflist}}

Hope this helps. Realkyhick 14:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Our variation in the states: "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for life." Cheers! Realkyhick 06:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To borrow a line from one of my old professors in journalism school, "It beats the hell out of me." Sorry. Realkyhick 06:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted the edits as desired by you. Sorry for the trouble. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi 01:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Was your PhD under Claudes Markovits by any chance? PS:I have begun looking into the links from your user page, but I wont pretend I know a lot about tis.Rueben lys 02:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello BobClive. Thanks for your message. It seems to me that the right thing to do with the article you mention is to list it at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English, in the section at the end for translated articles that still need cleanup. I watch that page and intervene sometimes, so I will look out for any articles that you place there. Don't hesitate to get back to me if I can help in any way. Itsmejudith 19:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. If you have text that you think should form the basis of a WP article, if it is out of copyright etc., you can request for it to be translated at WP:translate. HTH :-) Itsmejudith 20:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of problem are you having? Have you uploaded the image to Wikipedia first before trying to put it in the article? If not, there's your problem. Click on the "Upload file" link on the left side of this page, and follow the instructions. (Make sure you're OK on copyright issues with the photo, or it may be deleted by admins.) Once you've uploaded the image, go back to your article and edit it. Click on the button above the editing box with the photo icon on it; it's the sixth button from the left. Replace the "Example.jpg" with the name of the file that you gave it when you uploaded it — not the filename on your own computer. Let me know if you need more help. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Bob, I saw from your user page that you had a number of pages linked to the Hindu German Conspiracy and thought ou might know something about it. I am writing about the Hindu German Conspiracy, which ultimately is the larger plot of which Bagha Jatin, Jugantar plot etc were a part of. If you know anything about this, would much appreciate the help. Also, do you reckon you could have a look at the article just per se? CheersRueben lys 00:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the very interesting addition about Sri Yukteswar's association with those trying to end the tyranny of the British. Those were some very obscure sources that you found.

I'd like to edit for clarity and conciseness. First, all of those redlinked names - If they aren't notable people, could we just say 'others', as the case may be? And if any names should remain, can I unlink them (unless you think there will be an article about that person)?

There are several things that weren't quite clear to me.

1. When you say that 'Preonath Karar', et al, "came from these centres", what does that mean? Was he a member of one of those physical culture centres? Was he involved with the more political side of those centres?
2. In 1900, Preonath Karar founded the Kararashram in Puri and the Priyodham at Serampore where “Hrishikesh, one of the accused in the Alipore Bomb Case has his gymnasium.” Does that mean just that Hrishikesh had his gymnasium in the same cithy, Serampore, or that Hrishikesh's gymnasium was part of the Priyodham?
3. Preonath and Mokshada soon shifted to Benares where they contacted Suranath Bhaduri and formed a revolutionary centre. What does that mean, 'formed a revolutionary centre'?
4. A plan is also under consideration... Was Priyanath was part of that plan? It doesn't clearly say that.
5. I assume Arabindo Ghose is Sri Aurobindo? Is so, we should link to Sri Aurobindo.
6. Do you have any idea why Priyanath wasn't arrested, if he was so closely associated with Hrishikesh and Suranath as to convene a public meeting of pundits?

I realize that this is alot of questions, but I'm trying to make the article clear for everyone. I'm in no hurry. And I appreciate that you've been able to come up with such obscure history on Sri Yukteswar.

You may be interested in an additional connection here. Sri Yukteswar's most well-known disciple was Paramahansa Yogananda. In an out of print book, The Road Ahead, a close disciple of Yogananda writes:

When he was a young man, Yogananda, always remarkable for his dynamic energy, was approached by a group of friends and urged to lead a revolutionary movement for the liberation of India. He declined, saying, “India will be freed during my lifetime by spiritual means.” He then warned his friends that the weapons they were expecting to arrive by ship from Germany would be discovered by the British and confiscated. He urged the would-be revolutionaries to withdraw from active involvement before it was too late. But they ignored his advice, were caught after the weapons had been found and confiscated as predicted, and spent the next few years in prison. (Afterwards, several of them joined Mahatma Gandhi’s non-violent “revolution” to free India.

That sounds like the Hindu German Conspiracy that I see mentioned just above, which corresponds to the time that Yogananda was a young man in Kolkata. Thanks again, ॐ Priyanath talk 18:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I've done some minor copy editing to the Sri Yukteswar article using your answers. The Road Ahead[1] was written by Swami Kriyananda, who presumably heard Yogananda himself make that statement. Yogananda moved permanently to the U.S. in 1920, and I understand was the subject of English interest around that time - even though his time was spent teaching meditation and yoga.

Regarding your idea that Sri Yukteswar avoided arrest, because "Maybe, as in the case of several other revolutionaries, the sannyasi's garb helped him abscond." — Knowing Yukteswar's history and life (as you may have guessed, my username was taken in honor of him), I believe that's unlikely. He wasn't a typical 'street', or wandering sadhu. He had a large ancestral home (which became the 'Priyadham' ashram) and other properties that would have kept him from vanishing. Thanks again for your work. If you find anything else on Sri Yukteswar, even if it's not notable enough for Wikipedia, I would be interested. ॐ Priyanath talk 21:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Am I right in making this conclusion? (You will see my question I believe). Some of the problems I am facing is putting into context the background of the Ghadar movement, ie the Punjab problems from 1907, the background and foundations of Ghadar, as well as integrating other notables including the likes of Krishnavarma and others into the article. It is also important I think to specify that the Ghadar movement was actually encouraging Indians in North America to return and make contact in India for the end purpose of a popular uprising, and did not actually make a concrete plan in America save for the funds and sources of arms (that's the idea I got). Also, since you have looked into these, I was wondering if you could at all make any suggestions on the counter-espionage sections or the impacts bit, as well as what impact had on political movement in India. I am sort of pressed in real life and finding it hard to edit as much as I'd like to. Please add to the article if you know anymore on any of this. Also, you might also want to look at Mahendra Pratap's Kabul mission. There afew excellent references at the bottom of the conspiracy article, but I am really frustratingly not getting the time to expand the Kabul mission article. Any help would be much appreciated.Rueben lys 15:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Sir, the photos are just fine. I'm traveling to conferences and other universities for visiting my advisor through last week ... so couldn't upload the photos. I'll do that once I get back later this week. Thanks. --Ragib 08:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, yes thinggs are fine thankyou. I recently made some additions (quite a lot I think) to Hindu-German Conspiracy, and also put it up for peer-review. Could you may be have another look if you have the time, I really want to get it up to GA or FA level. There are hardly any good articles on the revolutionary movement, and I thought we cold start with this one. I also put Indian National Army for peer review (after working through a lot of it over summer). I think the category:Indian National Army now is much more comprehensive and improved than it was at the start of summer.Rueben lys 15:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a section in the article in the appendix with a link at the introduction which explains this. The reason why I started the article in this name is because nearly all the published literature I found uses the name and clarifies that term Hindu is used as in "Hindoo" (ie, derogatory term for Indian). I will clarify this more clearly.Rueben lys 10:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not entirely sure wether the term Hindoo developed to distinguish between Asian Indians and Red-Indians. The word was definitely in use by the middle and end of the 18th century in Europe, especially in England, and rapidly came to develop a derogatory meaning in the country, where the Hindu religion was seen as backward and irrationale, and those following it where considered to be uncivillised in comparison to Western European civillisation, especially with Evangelical Christian missionary influences of the time. (ie, superstitious, lower intelligence, engaging in uncivillised activities... you get the idea). You may remember Winston churchill used the term "Half-Naked Hindoo Fakir" to describe Gandhi, I think you get the concept. It was this same term that came to be used in Canada and America, and I must add, in opprobrium (see the Jensen reference in the section to do woth the name). See for example,

• On the Chronology of the Hindoos. William Marsden. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, Vol. 80, 1790 (1790), pp. 560-584.
• A View of the History, Literature, and Religion of the Hindoos. By William Ward (1815). See especially the introductions.
• A Few Notes on Some Skulls of the Hill Tribes of India. F. J. Mouat. Transactions of the Ethnological Society of London, Vol. 6. (1868), pp. 42-48.
• An Early Nineteenth Century Study of the Jains (Brief Communications).Ernest Bender. Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 96, No. 1. (Jan. - Mar., 1976), pp. 114-119.

Regards. Rueben lys 12:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} While I am editing, someone logs me out and the result after saving page mentions obviously my computer number. I WANT TO GET RID OF THIS PRANK.--BobClive (talk) 07:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Try reading Help:Logging_in#Log_in_problems, especially the part about intermittently logging out. This may have your solution. The Evil Spartan (talk) 09:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. I have answered on the article's talk page. Best regards. Itsmejudith (talk) 17:45, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And an excellent New Year to you too. The status of the article now is that it is just like many other articles in Wikipedia. It could be improved. How would you like to see it improved? (I won't be able to help much but will try my best to advise you on how to proceed?) Itsmejudith (talk) 18:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Friend, I'm sorry, but I wish I could help. I looked at the article, and not knowing French I had a very difficult time figuring out your intention with the references. Re: the photos - they will need to be uploaded separately to French Wikipedia. Could I suggest finding someone on French Wikipedia who might be interested in the subject, and could assist you? ~ priyanath talk 01:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bob. I am afraid I will have to disagree with what you say Priyanath suggested. While Jatindranath may have proposed the indoctrination of the Indian soldiers, you will notice the the Category:Indian Army is to do with the articles and categories that are relevant to the Indian Army. Even if we take the British Indian Army, Bagha Jatin was not a member of this army, and his works with units of the force, and links with the 14th Rajput during the war would not really substantiate the grounds to include the category, because the category is for articles relevant to the army, eg the force itself, units, people who formed it, equipment, history etc. In the midst of this Bagha Jatin's efforts, ie the conspiracy article, can be seen to have relevance to this category, but the Bagha Jatin article, dealing with the biography of Jatin, does not really satisfy the category at all. Also, I think you will find that the 1915 Singapore mutiny (the Malay State guides you mentioned earlier) is linked more to the Tehrek e Reshmi Rumal (most of the Singapore unit was muslim), and although there are said to be Ghadarites working within Singapore, there is hardly any literature I know of that suggests that the Malay state guides mutinied under Jugantar eforts. Hope this clarifies. Season's greetings. rueben_lys (talk) 12:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer continuing on this page for the clarity of the discussion. Before that, I reproduce what I wrote on Rueben lys's user's page: "Dear Rueben lys, Priyanath was perfectly right in suggesting the military category. It was one of Bagha Jatin's most original ideas to indoctrinate the Indian soldiers in favour of an insurrection. It was found out by the authorities during the Howrah Case in 1910 : as such, the 10th Jats Regiment was dismantled and several of its officers courtmartialled. The influence of this action was extended up to the Malay States Guide with their seizing the Singapore fort. Please consider the matter."--BobClive (talk) 16:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bagha Jatin did not only propose the indoctrination, he achieved it; the fact of having been dismantled after the Howrah Case, the 10th Jats Regiment is no more mentioned in the registers either of the Indian Army or the British Indian Army. As for the Muslim units, do not forget to keep in view Maulana Barakatullah's efforts. If you claim that the absence of mentioning the Jugantar efforts invalids my information on the subject, may I request you not to forget that the Jugantar belonged to - and acted according to the strict principles of - a secret society; slowly with time, facts and figures are appearing. Neither you nor myself can as yet have the last word on the subject, I am afraid.--BobClive (talk) 16:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two things. First of all wether Bagha Jatin proposed or achieved indoctrination of Indian troops would fall under original research, which is not really the purpose and is against wikipedia's policies of WP:NOR. Again, the fact that it was secret society does not really mean there is lack of published work on which the articles can be expanded (since WP:NOR is a core wikipedia policy). Secondly, even if he did achieve indoctrination of the 10th Jat, I dont think that qualifies his biography article in wikipedia as belonging to the Category:Indian Army, as a quick look to the articles under the category would tell you.

Delving on Jatin's work, Jugantar certainly was secret society, but its aims were certainly not secret. However, I cant see how that makes the Jugantar and Bagha Jatin articles as falling under the category of Indian army, even if for nothing else (again careful of WO:OR) then for the fact that it did not have any notable impact on the British Indian Army .Also talking about success of indoctrination, if it was indeed very successful, I think the impacts would have been more profound. Certainly, Jatin's work is briefly discussed in Hew Strachan's seminal work on the First World War, published in 2001. But Strachan, for example, discusses more the events of the entire German plot, from Berlin committee to Jatin to Ghadar. I know a lot of historians consider the Jugantar movement as the most significant threat in British India in Autumn of 1915, but it was managed, and ultimately, did not have the intended impact. On the issue of Muslim units and the Sinpaore mutiny, I think you will find the Singapor mutiny was more a result of the work of Deobandi's and pan-islamists, who nonetheless were working with the Ghadarites and the Bengali groups. However, Singapore was not the only place were they were palpable. If you look into the (more modern)history of the war, you will find that the pan-islamists (Tehrek e Reshmi Rumal, the Silk Letter Conspiracy0 were also known to work amongst Indian troops in Mesopotamia and Persia, and actually achieved considerable success in some places (See eg, Qureshi, M Naeem (1999), Pan-Islam in British Indian Politics: A Study of the Khilafat Movement, and Ansari, K.H. (1986), Pan-Islam and the Making of the Early Indian Muslim Socialist. Modern Asian Studies, Vol. 20, No. 3. (1986), pp. 509-537, Cambridge University Press), and at more than one places crossed paths with the Berlin committee and the Ghadarite efforts, not least in Constantinopole, persia, Mesopotamia and Kabul. Barkatullah was probably the ost notable amongst a number of Muslim scholars who had links to both the Indo-German conspiracy as well as, being a uslim himself, the Pan-Islamist movement. All in all, I think Category:Revolutionary movement for Indian independence is definitely yes, but I think the link to the Category:Indian Army is not appropriate.Regardsrueben_lys (talk) 17:29, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello BobClive and Rueben, I didn't actually suggest the Indian Army category, I was only fixing/formatting the addition of the category that was made by BobClive. I don't know enough about this to even have an opinion. Rueben— BobClive was asking me if I could fix his formatting problems at the Bagha Jatin article on the French Wikipedia, here[2]. I couldn't figure out what was trying to happen there, since I don't know French or what the intent was. Rueben, I notice you know some French. Can you help with that, if it still needs it? Cheers, and Season's Greetings to you both. ~ priyanath talk 22:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NO. I HAVE DONE IT ALREADY. THANKS AND GREETINGS.--BobClive (talk) 06:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bob, I just wanted to point out that you're wikilinking "Bagha Jatin" and "Jatin Mukherjee" in the infobox in Bagha Jatin, which is a bit pointless because the link takes you back to itself (ie back to Bagha Jatin page itself) and is alson incorrect formatting. The purpose of the links are to wikilink other pages. Other than a confusing autolink, it adds to the page size which maybe a problem in the future. I have undone this for the timebeing,please let me know if you have any formatting problems. Hope you had a good christmas.rueben_lys (talk) 12:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Bob, I've been snowed under with work and the holidays. My time on WP has been severely limited lately. We do need a mailshot to the members, but I'm not sure if it's something we have to do manually, on a one-by-one basis, or if there's an automated way to send them to the list. Suggestions? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 17:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Bob, I got a bit of a message for Kathleen Wright about the WP:WICU mixed up above. I'm a bit off today, it seems.

Thank you so much for your kind greetings, and all the best to you for the coming year. As far as the Mitra article goes, I think it's about as good as it is going to get now. My total unfamiliarity with the subject precludes my being able to help in much more than technical issues, but I did remove the {{unreferenced}} tag as the article obvoiusly has references now. I also took down the tag asking for help from an Inida expert, although every article always needs attention from experts. I left the merge tag from the other article in place, as I simply have no educated opinion on it. In short, this article is in about as good a shape as it can be with my own limited input, but again that's because of my ignorance of the subject. If there's any other issue in the article where you think I might be of help, let me know and I'll do what I can. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 17:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the New Year Greetings and DYK that January 26 is also Australia Day. Kathleen.wright5 11:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob, any help would be great help, and I know you're a treasure trove in this so I eagerly look forward to your contributions. Incidentally, I was referring to Hew Strachan, who spells his name as "Hew" and not "Hugh". Wish you a very happy new year. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 20:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have just realised, the Indian independence league's Satyananda Puri may actually have been Prafulla Kumar Sen. I will put this up for disambiguation, but do you at all know anything about Sen? Thanks for pointing this out. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 12:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No idea why the tag was applied. It was done by an anon editor with no explanation in the edit summary. I removed the tag. Be well!! - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 06:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

		The Epic Barnstar
		A small token in appreciation of your scholarship and contributions to improve important but lesser known aspects of the Indian Independence Movement. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 13:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apni ki France-e thaken ekhon? Also, do you know much on Chandra Kanta Chakraverty? rueben_lys (talk · contribs) —Preceding comment was added at 16:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please find an editor who can fill in the missing data in the above article. This article has been in the WP:Intensive Care Unit since October 2007. I have also put a notice on the Talk Page of Antorjal who is a member of WP:Bengal which has been there since 26 January 2008. Kathleen.wright5 07:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Bob, yes the excerpt was useful for further research. I have so far found he was a doctor, but unfortunately, I cant find enough to write an encyclopaedic entry. I wonder if you might have anything else at all. Incidentally, surely the PhD would be a published thing? rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 14:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just sent an email to you, so you should have my email address by now. Thanks. --Ragib (talk) 08:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added some more in bn:বাঘা যতীন।, not as much as I'd like to add, but got up to the part of his children. Will add more gradually. Sorry for the delay. --Ragib (talk) 05:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't exist - deletion log shows nothing. What's the problem? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 06:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar wnough with the subject to cast an opinion one way or another. Could you be more specific as to the issue(s)? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 15:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that section may have an inappropriate title. "A tribute" seems to be unencyclopedic. Maybe something like "Later years" or similar would be better. Moreover, the quote needs a reference, but in and of itself it is appropriate. Indeed, the entire article needs to have references that conform to this policy. You might want to work on this a bit at a time. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking considerably better. Good work. Might want to break some of the longer blocks of text into multiple paragraphs (easier reading), but otherwise this article is much improved. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 16:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you change all verbs to the past tense? Currently, you're using present tense. Example: "Immediately, he suspends terrorism." → "Immediately, he suspended terrorism." I don't know Telugu that well, so I can't really help with writing the article for te.wiki. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 15:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In my college days we were taught several types of style, among which the use of the historic present had its own prestige. Even today several representative French authors are fond of it. In my humble opinion, whatever be your standard of accomplishment, verify the standard of the guy you are talking to, before you blurt any sermon. Thanks for the wikidrama. In spite of your warning, when one has to describe a colourful personality (fortunately there have been some, down the ages, to soothe the insipid mass of Tom, Dick and Harry), it automatically tells on the texts, whether you call them articles or not.--BobClive (talk) 05:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)--BobClive (talk) 06:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the format we use in all articles on Wikipedia. Please read WP:MOSBIO#Tense, the style guideline to be used for all biographical articles. Furthermore, my note here was just a friendly reminder, not a warning of any kind. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He's right, Bob. Past tense is appropriate here, per the Manual of Style. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 02:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you have started "correcting" my tense, please have the patience of following it up and complete the "article" on Bagha Jatin. Try and avoid, however, misinterpreting the content.--BobClive (talk) 06:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll work on it. --PeterCantropus (talk) 04:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. :) I need some sort of authentication or formal permission from him that he has given me the permission. This would preferably be an email which can be forwarded to an admin if this there are requests for verification. Glad you could help. How are things getting along?Regards. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 13:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plaese pay attention tn the Dalit page. There are some entries about Mr Gandhi that are contradictory and require a fresh 'EYE'. thank you--Buster7 (talk) 00:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And a very warm wish to you too! Jai Hind. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 12:52, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Man, I don't really know whether it's is propriate to ask you for such things, but anywhay... I noticed you discussing on INC discus-page pretty active. I looked through that pages dealing with INC and indian history with the very aim to fing the links to resourses and literature, but did not suceed. Why was I looking? I'm to wright a work about INC (formation - beginning of 20th century period) for studying. Local libraries (including university's) does not fit these aims at all. Google doesn't help either. Maybe it's a cruel fate, maby I suck at searching. So. that's the deal - you seem to be s person who knows stuff about INC, may a man like me ask for a help a man like you? LucifericLumber —Preceding undated comment was added at 10:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Google seems to find pages about "December 8" as the birthdate; see webpage: www.kumarkhali.com-26. Also, there was an event of Jatin's 125th birthday in December 2004, but I don't know if they observed 7th or 8th. Reply here, until the research is resolved, then we can post the final results on Talk:Bagha_Jatin. Whoever posted "8" did so in both spots, indicating serious intent, not a hacked edit. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Impressed by the serious approach,I am enquiring about it. The only reliable reference we have is from the written notes left by Vinodebala Devi (Jatindranath's elder sister); she mentions the Bengali date 21 Aghrahayana 1286. Thanks for drawing my attentio to the kumarkhali site : it is well written, based on a considerable study of available data.--BobClive (talk) 08:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the note you left on my talk page, if I changed the birth date it was done accidentally. LilHelpa (talk) 19:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why thank you, Bob, and a happy and prosperous 2009 to you as well!! - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 07:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ! Bob, I too wish you a happy and prosperous New Year 2009. burdak (talk) 16:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bob. A happy New Year Year to you as well. Kathleen.wright5 08:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. But I wish a happy new year to you.

Regards,

LordGulliverofGalben (talk) 00:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's ok to remove these, or other, tags when the problem has been resolved. Rich Farmbrough, 04:38 21 January 2009 (UTC).

I have done those, but you just delete the {{Ibid|date=January 2009}} from the top of the article. Rich Farmbrough, 12:32 21 January 2009 (UTC).

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Hi Bob,

Can you find some information and refs about Sadashivrao Malkapurkar, Indian revolutionary, companion of Chandrashekhar Azad? It has redlinks in two related articles.

Thanks. Shivashree (talk) 11:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Project News WP:IND Newsletter is back! It's been nearly a year since the last edition, but we hope to bring out issues on a more regular basis now. The India Wikiproject was set up to increasing coverage of India-related topics on Wikipedia, and over the past few months the focus has been on improving article quality. A number of the project's featured articles underwent featured article reviews over the past year. Of these, Darjeeling and Flag of India survived the review process, while the rest were demoted. During the same period, Gangtok, Harbhajan Singh, Darjeeling and Mysore were featured on the main page respectively on August 20, September 17, November 6 and December 29, 2009. Meanwhile, articles on topics as diverse as Political history of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), Marwari horse and Iravan were promoted as featured articles, and respectively appeared on the main page on March 25, May 17 and May 28, 2010. Consequently, the number of FA-class articles under the project's scope dropped from 67 in August 2009 to 63 in June 2010. The number of good articles, however, saw a more than 40% increase, from 91 to 130 during the same period, while the number of featured lists saw a 33% increase from 12 to 16. Due to the recent policy changes regarding unreferenced Biographies of Living People (BLPs), an effort was started in January 2010 to source all unreferenced BLPs coming under Wikiproject India. 1200 such articles were identified initially and more were added to the list later. Due to the sourcing effort, the number of Indian unreferenced BLPs is down to 565 currently. During February-April 2010, There was a large scale disruption of Kerala related articles by a Thrissur based IP vandal. Editing from a dynamic IP BSNL connection, the vandal changed dates of birth, death and ages of a number of Malayalam and Tamil film actors. Later he added a few international biographies to his list. He also marked some living people like Arvind Swamy as dead. A month long range block was imposed on his IP range two times and each time he came back to vandalise dates once the block expired. Currently the range has been blocked for three months till September 11, 2010. What's New? Three members of the project, Abecedare, Tinu Cherian and SpacemanSpiff received their sysop mops in October-December 2009. Congratulations! Wikipedians in Bangalore have been organising periodic meetups over the past year, in collaboration with the Centre for Internet and Society. The next meetup is scheduled for July 18, 2010. Indian and other Wikipedians from all Wikipedias in various languages are welcome to attend.

Current proposals and discussions Please add Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics to your watchlist in order to stay updated with the latest discussions regarding various aspects of the project. A discussion is underway here to reach a consensus regarding the use of Indian number names (lakh, crore etc.) in Wikipedia articles. Please participate and add your comments. Join the effort to source and save unreferenced Indian BLPs. Some unintended vandalism is going on at the Assamese Wikipedia by the sole active editor. This is a request for Assamese-conversant Wikipedians to help resolve the issue. A discussion is in progress here in order to determine whether non-Western (including Indian) forms of classical music should be referred to by the nomenclature of art music instead of classical music. Please participate and add your comments. Watchlist the Articles for Deletions page for India related discussions. Opinions from more Indian Wikipedians are required in many of the discussions. The World Classical Tamil Conference 2010 is at present underway in Coimbatore, and the Tamil Wikipedia is actively involved at the event. A detailed report will follow in the next issue. Wikimania 2010 is happening in Poland from July 7-11. Indian Wikipedians attending include Gurubrahma, Shiju Alex, Ravidreams , Santhosh Thottingal, Tinu Cherian, WMF Board member Bishakha Datta and Advisory Board member Achal Prabala. We wish them all the best! More on their experiences in the next issue. If you've just joined, add your name to the Members section of WikiProject India. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 2 – (July 2010)). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Looking forward toward more contributions from you! Complete To Do List Complete To Do List India-related tasks | Indian noticeboard v • e • d • h • w Requests: Counterfeiting of currency notes in India, Swami Bhaskaranand Saraswati, Akhand Pratap Singh, Ravindra Gujjula Irrigation in India, Asura (band), Asian Variety Show, Cultural liberalism in India, India Export Tax, India Import Tax, Grand Hyatt Hotel, Mumbai, More... NPOV: Greater Nepal Rajneesh, Ranjit Lal Jetley Hedgewar, Puttanna Kanagal, Bride burning, Sonia Gandhi More... Wikify: Railway stations, Mahavidwan R. Raghava Iyengar, Silk in the Indian subcontinent, IDBI Bank More... Cleanup: articles on castes, Rampur, Tav-Prasad Savaiye, Shipping Corporation of India, Velama, Bangaru Adigalar, Medical college (India), More... Merge: Raghava Rama,Sammar Bahisht,Sathya Sai Baba movement,More... Expand: Prime Minister of India, Krishna district, List of railway stations in India, Swaraj, Ashoka Kumar Thakur vs. Union of India (Supreme Court Case), Barak Missile Deal Scandal, 14th Lok Sabha, Adithada, Ali Sardar Jafri, Bandhani work, Bhaiband, But Marma Atti, Chikan (embroidery), China Town, Kolkata, Dr. Rahi Masoom Raza, Energy policy of India, Essar Shipping, Fair use, Hinduism in India, Imperial Bank, Inbuan Wrestling, Integral humanism, Iran-India relations, Islam in India, Arjuna award, Sunil Mittal, Save Indian Family, Anjana Sukhani, Rajendra K. Pachauri More... Stubs: Anand Math, Andhra Bank, A R Antule, Arjuna award, Army of India, Bapudeva Sastri, Bombay Dyeing, Indian Copyright Act, Marimallappa, Mumbai Skywalk, More... Translate: Telugu Wikipedia articles, Marathi Wikipedia articles, Hindi Wikipedia articles, Sanskrit Wikipedia articles, Tamil Wikipedia articles Kannada Wikipedia articles Collaborate: Collaborations of the Month, Notice board, Category Adoptions To do, Version 1.0 assesment, India Portal, Life in India, India quick links Indian Wikipedians, More... Requested images: Ilaiyaraaja, M. S. Subbulakshmi, R. K. Narayan, Free image of Aarti Chhabria Other requests: Add maps from WikiProject India Maps to articles of Indian regions found at List of regions in India Create links/categories to {{Elections in India}} template v • e • d • h • w Signed... SBC-YPR (Editor) Sodabottle (Editor) Tinu Cherian (Distributor)

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English WikiProject News After a missed issue, the WP:IND newsletter is back on track to being a regular bimonthly feature. The Indian WikiProject has seen plenty of online and off-line action, both in English as well as other Indian languages, and we now have a bigger, better format that intends to feature content and news from the English as well as other Indian language Wikipedias. Reaching out to Indians has been the theme of the Indian Wikiproject over the past couple of months, aiming to involve a greater number of Indians in editing both the English and Indian language Wikipedias. To this end, efforts to set up the Indian chapter of Wikimedia have moved into their final stages, and registration of the society is currently pending. An effort is underway to push for "WikiMarathons" at meetups, where attendees will be encouraged to edit the English and/or Indian language Wikipedias. This is intended to popularise Wikipedia editing among the general public. In addition, a bot to post DYK's from the Indian Wikiproject to Twitter was created and launched by User:Logicwiki. What's New? Regrettably, the number of Featured Articles has dropped from 63 in June to 58 at the end of October 2010. Several FAs came up for review and were delisted, while Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India was saved. Meanwhile, Chalukya Dynasty appeared on the main page on July 9, 2010. Hearteningly, the number of Good Articles increased from 130 to 136 during the same period, while the number of Featured Lists remained constant at 16. The source code for the Article Alert Bot is now available and the bot itself is expected to be up and running very shortly. This means that article alerts for the Indian Wikiproject will again be available, enabling editors to easily keep track of developments in respect of reviews, nominations, deletions etc. The date change vandal mentioned briefly in the previous issue made a reappearance when the range block on his IP range expired in September. Consequently the block was extended till September 2011. In October there was a heated discussion in the India project noticeboard regarding the copyright status of the Indian party symbols. The discussion was triggered by the deletion of Wiki San Roze's party symbol images by Hammersoft as copyright violations. No resolution was reached, partly because of our inability to explain to Hammersoft how election symbols in India differ from party logos. Comments are requested from anyone with a background in Indian copyright law to clarify this issue. Complete To Do List Complete To Do List India-related tasks | Indian noticeboard v • e • d • h • w Requests: Sibichen K Mathew, Dominic Emmanuel, AK Merchant, Counterfeiting of currency notes in India, Akhand Pratap Singh, Asura (band), Asian Variety Show, Cultural liberalism in India, India Export Tax, India Import Tax, More... NPOV: Greater Nepal Rajneesh, Ranjit Lal Jetley Hedgewar, Puttanna Kanagal, Bride burning, Sonia Gandhi More... Wikify: Railway stations, Mahavidwan R. Raghava Iyengar, Silk in the Indian subcontinent, IDBI Bank More... Cleanup: , Rampur, Tav-Prasad Savaiye, Shipping Corporation of India, Velama, Medical college (India), All India Radio, More... Merge: Raghava Rama, Sammar Bahisht, Sathya Sai Baba movement,More... Expand: Prime Minister of India, Krishna district, List of railway stations in India, Swaraj, Ashoka Kumar Thakur vs. Union of India (Supreme Court Case), Barak Missile Deal Scandal, 14th Lok Sabha, Adithada, Ali Sardar Jafri, Bandhani work, Bhaiband, Chikan (embroidery), China Town, Kolkata, Rahi Masoom Raza, Energy policy of India, Essar Shipping, Fair use, Hinduism in India, Imperial Bank, Inbuan Wrestling, Iran-India relations, Islam in India, Arjuna award, Sunil Mittal, Save Indian Family, Anjana Sukhani, Rajendra K. Pachauri, More... Stubs: Anand Math, A R Antule, Arjuna award, Army of India, Bapudeva Sastri, Bombay Dyeing, Indian Copyright Act, Marimallappa, Mumbai Skywalk, More... Translate: Bhojpuri Wikipedia articles, Maithili Wikipedia articles, Telugu Wikipedia articles, Marathi Wikipedia articles, Hindi Wikipedia articles, Sanskrit Wikipedia articles, Tamil Wikipedia articles Kannada Wikipedia articles Collaborate: Collaborations of the Month, Notice board, Category Adoptions To do, Version 1.0 assessment, India Portal, Life in India, India quick links Indian Wikipedians, More... Requested images: Ilaiyaraaja, M. S. Subbulakshmi, R. K. Narayan, Free image of Aarti Chhabria Other requests: Add maps from WikiProject India Maps to articles of Indian regions found at List of regions in India Create links/categories to {{Elections in India}} template v • e • d • h • w

News from Indian-language Wikipedias The Bengali Wikisource, which contains the literary works of many prominent writers of Bengali language including Rabindranath Tagore, has crossed the 5,000 pages milestone. According to List of Wikisource page, Bengali Wikisource is now at rank 21 among 56 Wikisource based on number of content pages. The uploading of Tamil technical words donated by Tamil Virtual University to the Tamil Wiktionary was completed in October. The words were donated by the Government of Tamil Nadu due to lobbying efforts by Tamil Wikipedians during the runup to the World Classical Tamil Conference 2010 (WCTC) in June. Nearly 70,000 words were uploaded increasing the word count in Tamil Wiktionary from 1,20,000+ to 1,90,000+. This has brought Tamil to the 10th place (from 17) in the list of largest wiktionaries and has earned it a place in the Wiktionary front page logo. In addition, Tamil Wikipedians set up a stall at the WCTC and introduced Tamil Wiki projects to people from all walks of life. The Hindi Wikipedia and its sister wiki projects migrated to the new vector interface on September 1, 2010. In addition, Hindi is the first (and so far the only) Indian language to be incorporated into the WikiBhasha translation and contribution toolkit developed by Microsoft Research. Malayalam wikimedian Santhosh Thottingal has developed a software (Wiki2CD) for the creation of the Malayalam Wikipedia CD, which was launched in 2010. In addition, Santosh, along with fellow Malayalam wikimedian Shiju Alex coordinated a panel discussion at Wikimania 2010 on creation of offline Wiki content.

Community news Mumbai and Delhi held their first meetups in September, where Wikimedia Board members Barry Newstead and Bishakha Datta met up with Wikipedians and other interested members of the public in these cities. A month later, Hyderabad also held its first meetup. Wikipedians in Bangalore continued their tradition of meeting up regularly at the Centre for Internet and Society, with the nineteenth meetup in September featuring Barry and Bishaka as attendees, and marking the release of the community newsletter. Along with Delhi and Mumbai, Bangalore is reported to be one of the three cities in contention for the Indian office of the Wikipedia Foundation. Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales had an interaction with Wikipedians followed by a presentation to members of the public at the third Wikipedia meetup in Mumbai on October 31, 2010. The first Wikimarathon, where Wikipedians and members of the public were encouraged to contribute to Wikimedia projects onsite, was held simultaneously at the meetups in Bangalore and Chennai on November 14, 2010. Wikipedians in Delhi also held a meetup the same day. The Malayalam Wikipedia held several academies in different parts of Kerala over the past few months. Wikimedia Foundation board member Bishakha Datta and Indian Wikipedian Srinivas Gunta co-authored a panel presentation at Wikimania 2010 on the Wikimedia Asia Project.

Current proposals and discussions Please add Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics to your watchlist in order to stay updated with the latest discussions regarding various aspects of the project. Two current featured articles, 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings and Economy of India have been nominated for reviews here and here respectively. Contribute and help prevent these articles from being delisted! This interesting discussion on the quality of editing in India-related articles has been underway for on the noticeboard a few days. Feel free to join in and express your opinion. A series of discussions are underway on the neutrality of the Famine in India article. Please comment and help resolve the disputes. Join the Wikimedia India mailing list and the IRC channel for regular updates and discussions. Links to language-specific forums are available here. If you've just joined, add your name to the Members section of Wikipedia:WikiProject India. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Signed... SBC-YPR, Sodabottle (Editors) Tinucherian (Distributor) This newsletter incorporates content from the WikiMedia India Community Newsletter, September 2010.

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