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"that other editors disagree" a.k.a you, it's only you! I was the one who made the talk page, but you just delete the whol thing i wrote, with sources. Also you delet my writing, because i dont give the pages, while you dont show the pages as well... CriticKende (talk) 10:34, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi,

I found a good German article about this with a lot of images: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binnenkastell_Keszthely-Fenékpuszta OrionNimrod (talk) 16:55, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I will include it in the article. CriticKende (talk) 15:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @CriticKende

Your recent edits on the said page are not supported by the sources cited. For example Zosimus writes about the 3rd century AD general Danube region, and the passage from Magyarok eredete also refers to the Danube area. None of the authors specify Transylvania region, nor does the timeframe correspond to the chronology. These edits fall under the no original research and need to be removed.

However, this is not the first time we had this conversation and we spoke about it again just a few days ago. I have no intention to start (or continue) an edit war with you and I do appreciate the amount of sources you bring forward for my interest, hence I leave you this message.

Please read the rules and have another look at the said edits on History of Transylvania. Aristeus01 (talk) 07:39, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both describe the areas north of the Danube, including Transylvania. CriticKende (talk) 10:30, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where does it say that? Aristeus01 (talk) 11:17, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile the Borani, the Gothi, the Carpi, and the Urugundi, nations that dwell on the Ister, left no part of Italy or Illyricum unpillaged, but devasted all without any opposition.

The Goths and the Carps live in Transylvania around this. :)

From the Rogoski Chronicle, we learn about the ethnic relations of Transylvania at that time, according to the chronicle, in 897 there were Slavs, Hungarians, Danubian Bulgars and Muromas living in Transylvania.

Do you think it's like describing what's in the territory of Hungary today, skipping Transylvania and continuing on to Bulgaria? No. It's clearly describing the area where the Hungarians settled, that's the area from present day Budapest to present day Bulgaria, that's why Bulgarians are included. CriticKende (talk) 13:53, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CriticKende All I see is that they lived by the Danube. Transylvania has no "border" with Danube.

I understand your opinion but my question is where does it say in the text those people lived in Transylvania (or the area of nowadays Transylvania)? Aristeus01 (talk) 15:38, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are many historical sources referring to this region like that, as the Danube was a good reference point. Do you think these people lived a few hundred metres from the Danube and that's it? No, it obviously refers to the Danube and the region around it. CriticKende (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be worth discussing this on the article talk page. CriticKende (talk) 15:43, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about the article improvements, it's about your editing and repeated breaking of the NOR rule. Aristeus01 (talk) 15:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do not break the NOR roulet because it is in the text. CriticKende (talk) 09:38, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where? Where does it say Transylvania or the area of Transylvania in those texts? Aristeus01 (talk) 14:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It does not say Transylvania, but it describes it. The area where the Hungarians moved in. The whole book is about the Carpathian Basin, of which Transylvania is a part. Besides, it describes the peoples living along the Danube, in the Hungarian kingdom Transylvania bordered the Danube. CriticKende (talk) 17:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The map of Transylvania in the Hungarian wiki https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C3%A9ly_t%C3%B6rt%C3%A9nelme#/media/F%C3%A1jl:TransylvaniaPhysicalhung.jpg CriticKende (talk) 17:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just because you don't write on every page that Transylvania is included, given that the book is about the Carpathian Basin, and at the time of the Hungarian kingdom Transylvania bordered the Danube, it is quite clear that Transylvania is included. This is not my invention, it is the way the writer wants it to be understood. The book is (partly) about the Carpathian Basin. Of which Transylvania is a part. And in Hungarian geography, Transylvania borders the Danube, so when a Hungarian writer writes that so-and-so lived along the Danube, Transylvania is included. CriticKende (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP OF TRANSYLVANIA

http://erdely.terkepek.net/ CriticKende (talk) 17:45, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kogutowicz Manó : Map of Transylvania - Scale: 1:900.000

https://muzeumantikvarium.hu/item/erdely-terkepe---mertek--1-900-000?set_lang=en CriticKende (talk) 17:46, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sablon:Erdély-térkép = Template:Transylvania map in the Hungarian Wiki

https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sablon:Erd%C3%A9ly-t%C3%A9rk%C3%A9p CriticKende (talk) 17:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ~~~~ Aristeus01 (talk) 13:57, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Aristeus01

I see in the Vlach article there is one of my edit that you don't like, (here: 1) which you think are not in the source.

Here is the quote from the source, and the link to the source:

The part, that you dont like:

Anna Komnene mentions in her Alexiad that in 1091 Emperor Alexios ordered Nikephoros Melissenos to raise an army against invading Pechenegs. Melissenos recruited, among others, Bulgarians and "wanderingthe nomadic tribes called Vlachs in popular parlance".

Your source: Florin Curta: Imaginea vlahilor la cronicarii cruciadei a IV-a, page 39, 2015

Link to your source: https://www.academia.edu/20297336/Imaginea_vlahilor_la_cronicarii_Cruciadei_a_IV_a_P%C3%A2n%C4%83_unde_r%C4%83zbate_ecoul_discu%C8%9Biilor_intelectuale_de_la_Constantinopol?auto=download

And the quote in your source, which I put in the article:

page 39: Melissenos a recrutat oșteni din rândurile bulgarilor, dar și a celor care „duc o viață de nomazi și sunt numiți în limba populară vlahi”114

Translated to English: Melissenos recruited soldiers from the ranks of the Bulgarians, but also from those who "lead a nomadic life and are called in the popular language Vlachs " (I translated it with a translator, it may not be perfect, but you can see that it is the same.)

So what I wrote is in the source. So I don't quite understand why quoting the source is a problem.

As well as in the original text (link: https://www.yorku.ca/inpar/alexiad_dawes.pdf page:141) in this place: "He was partly to levy recruits from the Bulgarians and from the nomadic tribes (called Vlachs in popular parlance) and for the rest whatever horseor foot-soldiers offered themselves from any country. "

So what I wrote is in your source word for word, and in the original text word for word, after that I don't see how I would break any rule.

If there is anything else I can help you with, I look forward to hearing from you. Have a nice day.

CriticKende (talk) 09:21, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CriticKende

If you read the entire entry and not just the part that you like you'll see that Curta explicitly dismisses that interpretation (of Vlachs being nomads) (footnote 116, page 39). On Wikipedia we need to add text that is supported by the source, not our personal interpretation of it. This is not a blog. Aristeus01 (talk) 11:01, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have quoted the source word for word, so my editing is correct. (By the way, the original text says the same) CriticKende (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Aristeus01

I see I also have an edit in the History of Transylvania article that you don't like.( 2) I'd like to argue that too, and show that what I put in the source doesn't break any rules on wikipedia.

Link to my source: https://archive.org/details/carolingianchron0000scho/page/186/mode/2up

What I wrote in the article: "In the Royal Frankish Annals, it is described that at that time in Transylvania, there were Avars and a Slavic tribe called the Obodrites, also called the Predecentes, and Bulgars lived next to them."

Quote in the source: "After arriving at Aachen and celebrating Christmas there, he was informed that the envoys of the king of the Bulgars were in Bavaria. He contacted them and made them wait there until the right moment. The emperor also received the envoys of the Obodrites who are commonly called Praedenecenti and live in Dacia on the Danube as neighbors of the Bulgars, of whose arrival he had been informed." (Page 116)

Quote from the source commentary by Bernhard Walter Scholz, University of Michigan Press (the translator): "After Ljudovit’s timely death in 823 the Franks encounter a new foe in the Bulgars, whose emissaries appear before Emperor Louis the Pious for the first time in 824. At issue is the border between Franks and Bulgars and the control of the Slavonic tribes living along the Danube in Dacia and in neighboring territories. That the Franks are fighting the Bulgars deep in the Balkans by the time the annalists discontinue the official annals of the realm is a measure of the expansion which the Carolingian empire undergoes over the nine decades of Carolingian history recorded by the RFA." (Page 18)

So, it's in the text, what I wrote, but it's even in the Commentary. And even if you don't accept that Transylvania borders the Danube, (which is: The map of Transylvania in the Hungarian wiki:https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C3%A9ly_t%C3%B6rt%C3%A9nelme#/media/F%C3%A1jl:TransylvaniaPhysicalhung.jpg ) in the commentary by the academic Bernhard Walter Scholz, it is stated that "Slavonic tribes living along the Danube in Dacia and in neighbouring territories", so again I can only say that I didn't make it up, it is not my own research, but it is in the source as a preserved historical record and as a historian's opinion. So again I don't understand when I broke a rule on wikipedia.

If there is anything else I can help you with, I look forward to hearing from you. Have a nice day.

CriticKende (talk) 09:52, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CriticKende

Again, if the source does not state that explicitly, your research or "logic" is not valid. We are here to quote reliable sources on the topic. For example, your entry here does not say anything explicitly about Transylvania so it does not belong in the Transylvania article. If you would add that entry to Dacia or Romanian in the Migration Period/Middle Ages that would be perfectly fine, since the territory of Roman Dacia is contained within that. Transylvania is just a part of the former Roman province, therefore your pinpointing at it without the sources specific indication is null. Aristeus01 (talk) 11:06, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, however, the text say it, so all is fine here. CriticKende (talk) 16:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"your entry here does not say anything explicitly about Transylvania so it does not belong in the Transylvania article"

"Slavonic tribes living along the Danube in Dacia and in neighbouring territories" CriticKende (talk) 16:20, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting that you're so attached to the word Transylvania, but you've put the Baskirs as a picture for the Hungarians with a calm heart. As if the problem is not that there is no Transylvania, but that the Vlachs are not mentioned in the text... CriticKende (talk) 16:35, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be your problem, not mine, this single purpose editing intended to promote Immigrationist theory. My problem is that your edits are not supported by the sources or only touch on the subject while you add a hefty amount from your opinion. I will not let such poorly written texts be added to the pages I edit as well even if I have to ask for 3rd Opinion, Dispute resolution or NOR for every single one of them.

On a more positive note I appreciate that you highlighted so many new sources and I can work with that. We just need to be more accurate with citing. Aristeus01 (talk) 17:26, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the facts that both the text and the commentary clearly indicate that this text fits perfectly into the article, the section will remain and the article will be enriched by it. CriticKende (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"On a more positive note I appreciate that you highlighted so many new sources and I can work with that. We just need to be more accurate with citing." Thank you :) CriticKende (talk) 18:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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All right, thank you for the advice. CriticKende (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for your help, I will check the sources. CriticKende (talk) 20:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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