User talk:Dajasj
2023 Dutch general election
[edit]Hi, I've seen that you're reverting my edits in Dutch party pages regarding the 2023 general election, but I'm not sure about the reason. As for the fact that "the count is still ongoing", as far as I know 100% of the ballots have been counted and, despite the presence of some recounts, I don't see why such results should be good enough to already include the percentages but not the number of votes. As for the "Extra-parliamentary" label, I can assure you that it has been widely used on Wikipedia with the exact meaning that a party didn't win any seat, why reverting that as well? Fm3dici97 (talk) 15:02, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Recounts are unlikely to change the percentage, but likely to change the votes. And I fear people will simply forget to change that and then we have false information.
- Do you have an example of page where it is used? For context, in Dutch politics extra-parliamentary cabinet means that a cabinet is formed without a binding with parties in parliament. So using that term will be confusing. Dajasj (talk) 15:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Dajasj regarding the possibility that pages remain without updated I understand your fear and I'll wait for the official ones being released. About the use of "Extra-parliamentary" in the election results tables, here are some examples from countries that held elections in the past year:
- Volt Europa
- Christian Democrats (Finland)
- Social Democratic Party of Montenegro
- Pirate Party Luxembourg
- Parempoolsed
- MeRA25
- Given how widespread the use of that template in this specific context is, I don't think there's going to be a problem with doing the same for Dutch elections as well. Fm3dici97 (talk) 19:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, okay. Confusing given Extra-parliamentary cabinet exists. Maybe in the future I'll propose an alternative (grey background would make more sense for example) Dajasj (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Dajasj, sorry to disturb you again. I saw that there's a new source for the results in 2023 Dutch general election, does this mean that the numbers that are being showed now in the results table are definitive ones? Just checking because I saw that there are still inconsistencies in party pages and I wanted to address those. Thanks, Fm3dici97 (talk) 08:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- No problem, the numbers on 2023 Dutch general election are incorrect and need to be changed still. I have fixed the results on many party pages, but might have missed some... See https://www.kiesraad.nl/actueel/nieuws/2023/12/04/kiesraad-hertelling-geen-invloed-op-zetelverdeling-of-gekozen-kandidaten Dajasj (talk) 09:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Dajasj, sorry to disturb you again. I saw that there's a new source for the results in 2023 Dutch general election, does this mean that the numbers that are being showed now in the results table are definitive ones? Just checking because I saw that there are still inconsistencies in party pages and I wanted to address those. Thanks, Fm3dici97 (talk) 08:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, okay. Confusing given Extra-parliamentary cabinet exists. Maybe in the future I'll propose an alternative (grey background would make more sense for example) Dajasj (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Past election results
[edit]Hi Dajasj. Thank you for adding voting totals to Simone Kennedy (politician) and Harmen Krul. It did bother me a bit that I could not find them ;) However, for Krul I do not see the source for his 1,420 votes, and I could not find one myself. Could you please provide it? - Tristan Surtel (talk) 18:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Tristan Surtel! You can find the 2018 municipal elections here (Or here, but as it is my website it is not really independent :P). Dajasj (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Btw, nice tables you have made. I was wondering however, is it correct to state that Yvonne Bijenhof Lost the election? Because she entered parliament later. Ideally, there would be more flavours in between I believe. Dajasj (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- And on another note, might be worth improving accessibility of the table, which also automatically makes the headers and the first column grey. And in general I would recommend aligning numbers on the right side, because then these are easier to compare. But the notes in the cell make that harder :/ Dajasj (talk) 19:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will add the source as well. I styled the tables after those for Bolivian politicians (example) with some additions to fit the Dutch electoral system. I had long only known of the US election boxes, which are less useful as they assume a two- or three-way race. I will look at the accessibility suggestions but also feel free to make adjustments yourself that can then be brought to all these boxes. Regarding the election result, I am not sure what would be the most appropriate wording here. Bijenhof was not elected in 2021, so she would have lost the election. Perhaps a note could be added that describes she was appointed later in the term based on her candidacy. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 06:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- I see that with this type of table the first row/column do not get grey without specifying the color. I am not sure which color would help most towards accessibility. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 07:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have made some suggestions at Yvonne Bijenhof, but feel free to revert them. Some changes have made it more in line with the standard for normal tables.
- Maybe we can name the column 'Elected'? And then 'Yes' (green), 'No' (red), 'Later' (orange), 'Refused' (orange)? Dajasj (talk) 07:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Dajasj. Thank you for your changes; I have carried them over to other Dutch politicians. In case they were appointed later in the term, I have added a note to the "Lost" mention rather than to change it to "Later". Looking at the election itself, it seems a particular candidate is either elected or not, regardless of whether their spot on the list provides them with a seat later. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 21:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Tristan Surtel, I see you added "Incomplete list" to Sigrid Kaag. Do you have any information that she participated in an election in the past? I have never heard of that... Dajasj (talk) 21:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Dajasj, I am not aware of others. However, I did not check whether she participated as a lijstduwer in local/regional elections as is common. If you know that she has not, feel free to remove the template. (I wished the template instead said "(possibly) incomplete" as on the Dutch Wikipedia version).- Tristan Surtel (talk) 21:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay! She has not shown up in elections after 2010, so I am pretty sure she didn't participate in any. If I have time, I will also remove some templates on other people if I can't find them in my database. Dajasj (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- There are btw also election participations on the Wikidata pages, including sources ;) Dajasj (talk) 09:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay! She has not shown up in elections after 2010, so I am pretty sure she didn't participate in any. If I have time, I will also remove some templates on other people if I can't find them in my database. Dajasj (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Dajasj, I am not aware of others. However, I did not check whether she participated as a lijstduwer in local/regional elections as is common. If you know that she has not, feel free to remove the template. (I wished the template instead said "(possibly) incomplete" as on the Dutch Wikipedia version).- Tristan Surtel (talk) 21:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Tristan Surtel, I see you added "Incomplete list" to Sigrid Kaag. Do you have any information that she participated in an election in the past? I have never heard of that... Dajasj (talk) 21:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Dajasj. Thank you for your changes; I have carried them over to other Dutch politicians. In case they were appointed later in the term, I have added a note to the "Lost" mention rather than to change it to "Later". Looking at the election itself, it seems a particular candidate is either elected or not, regardless of whether their spot on the list provides them with a seat later. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 21:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- I see that with this type of table the first row/column do not get grey without specifying the color. I am not sure which color would help most towards accessibility. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 07:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will add the source as well. I styled the tables after those for Bolivian politicians (example) with some additions to fit the Dutch electoral system. I had long only known of the US election boxes, which are less useful as they assume a two- or three-way race. I will look at the accessibility suggestions but also feel free to make adjustments yourself that can then be brought to all these boxes. Regarding the election result, I am not sure what would be the most appropriate wording here. Bijenhof was not elected in 2021, so she would have lost the election. Perhaps a note could be added that describes she was appointed later in the term based on her candidacy. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 06:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- And on another note, might be worth improving accessibility of the table, which also automatically makes the headers and the first column grey. And in general I would recommend aligning numbers on the right side, because then these are easier to compare. But the notes in the cell make that harder :/ Dajasj (talk) 19:10, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Btw, nice tables you have made. I was wondering however, is it correct to state that Yvonne Bijenhof Lost the election? Because she entered parliament later. Ideally, there would be more flavours in between I believe. Dajasj (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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harv/sfn-error in Dutch cabinet formation
[edit]Hello, @Dajasj. A recent contribution that you made to Dutch cabinet formation has lead to a harv-error/sfn-error due to a missing bibliography. The work missing is "Bootsma 2017". Please add this into a bibliography section into the article so that future readers know where the information is from. Thank you, Thecowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed! Dajasj (talk) 18:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Have done that :) Dajasj (talk) 08:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Dajasj!!!! :D Dan the Animator 17:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
July 2024
[edit] Hello, I'm Sumanuil. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, List of ministers of justice of the Netherlands, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 18:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of ministers of justice of the Netherlands, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Also, the letter D is not a valid image file. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 18:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Sumanuil, why remove it again after I have added a reference in the table? Or do you also want the reference in the introduction and infobox?
- Anyway, feel free to update the page yourself as it is currently outdated. Dajasj (talk) 18:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- (The letter D was indeed a mistake) Dajasj (talk) 18:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- What reference? A section in the table is not a reference. There's one in the article about him. Use that. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 18:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I did (re)use that reference the second time.......... Dajasj (talk) 18:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- What reference? A section in the table is not a reference. There's one in the article about him. Use that. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 18:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, there it is. Admittedly, it's not the same one, and my knowledge of Dutch leaves much to be desired. I've added a second ref. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 23:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Short descriptions
[edit]Thanks for adding short descriptions, but please remember that they should start with a capital letter. I have fixed some of the Dutch cabinet articles, but please could you work through the rest. Dutch government cabinet, 1888 to 1999
seems to be the best pattern — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 19:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think I fixed all the Capitalization problems. I was confused with the rules on Wikidata! Dajasj (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin external links
[edit]Hi Dajasj,
I see you put a tag on the Abraham ben Gedaliah Tiktin page I created saying the page has excessive or inappropriate external links. I'd be happy to improve the page, but I'm not sure which links you are referring to. Could you please be more specific as to what needs improving?
Thanks Commontater (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Commontater, thanks for reaching out! There are all sorts of external links under "Students". But I'm not really sure what is happening there. The Books section might also be inappropiate, and replaced by OCLC links, but that is less problematic as far as I can see. :) Dajasj (talk) 12:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can definitely remove the links to books by Salomon Plessner, since he has his own Wikipedia page, so maybe they can be added there, or maybe not.
- For Baruch Bendit Glikman there is definitely something funny there. Maybe I fell asleep in the middle of writing.
- I'm not exactly sure what OCLC links are, but I don't know if Tiktin's books have such links.
- If I remove the books from the students', could I then remove the tag on the page?
- Thanks Commontater (talk) 13:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
External links tags?
[edit]Hi there! You added the tag requesting external links cleanup to A Bailar Tour and Aaron Osmond, but those pages have no external links section. Would you help me understand what you were trying to indicate? Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 21:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Oona Wikiwalker, thanks for asking. There are all sorts of external links in tables an texts and they should be removed. Kind regards, Dajasj (talk) 08:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused. I don't see an External links section... Since I don't have the eyes to see what you see, why don't you remove it? :D Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 23:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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