User talk:NGC 628

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November 2023

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Information icon Hi NGC 628! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Islam several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

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This was my first contribution to the Islam article. what revertion?. NGC 628 (talk) 07:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Some of your recent contributions to Quran have been undone because context is already in Quran#The_Bible Zsohl(Talk) 09:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2024

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Information icon Hello, I'm R Prazeres. I noticed that you recently removed content from History of the Quran without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. R Prazeres (talk) 16:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed this sentence, which reflects the Yemeni government's attitude towards a scientist, because I thought it was not very relevant to the history of the Quran. There is nothing that requires it to be included, at least in the introduction.NGC 628 (talk) 06:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pushing a POV

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It has been made clear to you before (e.g. at Talk:History of the Quran, Talk:Islam, Talk:Quran) that editors do not agree with your attempt to push a single POV across several articles and that such edits do not respect WP:NPOV. Stop inserting content unduly promoting the revisionist school, like you did here at Rashidun Caliphate. What's worse is that your attempts to do this at that article have been previously reverted, yet you seem to be trying again by sneaking it into an image caption. This comes across as tendentious editing. R Prazeres (talk) 15:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Prazeres, first of all, I would like to say the following about your tendentious editing definition;
1-No one can be absolutely neutral, but a neutrality that the average can accept is sufficient.
2-Yes, it is true that I added the views of the Revisionist school. But this does not indicate that I am inclined to organize the entire article according to the revisionist school, and I am not making such an effort.
3-Like many others, I do not consider the views of this school to be fringe.
4-I am in favor of that school and other views being included in the articles together and within their own encyclopedic value scales.
5-Finally, I made such additions to some articles where alternative views were not included and they were given in a devalued manner (this points to the dominance of an invisible group). If this situation hadn't happened, I wouldn't have needed to make such an effort.
My contributions will never disrupt the general balance, and as I said on the discussion pages, I respect wikipedia policies and have full faith in their requirements. Thank you for your understanding and attention.NGC 628 (talk) 06:59, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You don't seem to get the point. But the short answer is: don't re-attempt things that consensus has already rejected, unless you've obtained a new consensus to do so. R Prazeres (talk) 09:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not very interested in politics pages. I'm sorry for that. I have to read some pages because someone brought them up.
However, I understand that the pages are not set as definitive rules, except in these very limited cases, and are only guidelines. Consensus is one of them. As a flexible concept used to express "common sense", not unity of opinion. What I understand is a rule that will prevent the others from becoming invisible by inflating one of the subheadings in an article that may consist of many subheadings.
Depending on the breadth of the subject, there is no harm in covering different information on other pages in another article with small links, sentences or a few paragraphs, and the amount of this is left entirely to the responsibility of the contributors.
Am I wrong?NGC 628 (talk) 06:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This is for your contributions to Quran. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello Stefen. I will try to be more careful in my contributions. By the way, taking back some of my contributions does not seem like a very healthy and positive evaluation to me. It would also make me happy to see that someone is interested in reverts, and I think it would contribute more to progress. Thanks for your interest.NGC 628 (talk) 10:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When what you added is unencyclopedic, as putting a question in the text is, it needs to be reverted, and doing that is constructive for the encyclopedia. If you have a question about the content, it is best to ask on the article's talk page. Also, please begin using edit summaries to explain your work. I see a lot of recent edits to Quran, including the removal of a reference, that have no explanation attached. Explaining your work is expected by other editors in trying to understand the changes and reduces the chances that your edits are reverted. Stefen 𝕋owers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 18:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Grand Ayatollahs of Qom; The high class scholars in Iran who have the authority to interpret the Quran in Shia Islam[1] used assertive titles such as Hujjat al-Islam, Ayatollah, Ayatollah Al-Uzma and gained theocratic tutelage over people and the administration[2] whose decisions cannot be questioned anymore.
I think you are talking about the reference at the end of the caption. That reference was about the attribute Ismah. One user objected, saying that this adjective is not used for ayatollahs. It had different aspects and this could be a partially justified objection. For this reason, I removed the reference to the statement "whose decisions cannot be questioned anymore" by directing it to 'supreme leader'. NGC 628 (talk) 06:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC) NGC 628 (talk) 06:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@NGC 628, The phrase "and gained tutelage over people and the administration" already conveys the main point. And the "Ismah" concept, according to general consensus refers to their prophets, angels, and their The Fourteen Infallibles. In limited cases, it could refer to a human theoretically of "perfect faith"; however, it does not state that their decisions are beyond question. StarkReport (talk) 07:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Theoretically, in practice, the decision of the religious leader is above all others, including the parliament, the president and the judiciary, and cannot be reversed unless he wishes. We also need to look at the election style of the so-called "elected". In fact, no person who cannot obtain prior permission from the religious leadership can participate in the elections of these institutions. NGC 628 (talk) 08:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"the decision of the religious leader is above all others, including the parliament, the president and the judiciary, and cannot be reversed unless he wishes"
From my understanding, that's just one guy: Ali Khamenei.
While Ayatollahs and Maraji are highly respected religious scholars, they do not hold the same political power as the Supreme Leader(Khamenei). They influence religious thought and jurisprudence but do not have the same governing authority. Their role is more advisory and spiritual. StarkReport (talk) 09:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"We also need to look at the election style of the so-called "elected"."
I'm pretty sure stuff like this has already been covered in Iran-related articles, so I'm not sure what your intending to do. StarkReport (talk) 09:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not insist that the expression remain the same. Also, a simple expression is better for me. Thank you for your contribution and interest. NGC 628 (talk) 10:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  1. ^ Sociology of religions: perspectives of Ali Shariati (2008) Mir Mohammed Ibrahim
  2. ^ Newman in Meri 2006, p. 734