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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jcc was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:46, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Scr81, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! jcc (tea and biscuits) 18:46, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Scr81 (talk) 13:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm in the process of editing the document along with help from the Teahouse and the online chat.

I've edited the text and removed a lot of the imagery - Can you see anything else that might stop it being seen as factual?

Thanks Scr81 (talk) 13:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Scr81 (talk) 13:51, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've been hammering through the article with help from the live chat. The entire article has been edited to ensure it reads better. It seems my eng lit background worked against me! Please can you come back to me with any specific phrases that you felt were not suitable for article and I will happily edit them. Thanks, Scr81 (talk) 13:51, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Scr81, I can see that you have edited the article greatly, however I still feel that it seems too advertisery in tone. Particular sections included the "Later Management Changes and Expansion" section, which I feel is totally unnecessary, I'm sure a few sentences will suffice (like how you have described the earlier years) instead of a year by year list. Do ask if you have any more questions. jcc (tea and biscuits) 16:25, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've provisionally come up with this: (I know it still need fixing, but can you help?)

In 1984 Jennings purchased the Yarm Road dealership in Stockton on Teesside and later the Washington site. Further changes came in 1995 when Jennings purchased the dealership in South Shields after Alan Bentley took over as Managing Director following a buyout from the Jennings family. Expansion continued with the addition of the Gateshead site in 1996 which now houses Jennings Ford Gateshead and the Transit Centre, the Cargo Fleet Lane Supersite in Middlesbrough in 2000, the first non-Ford franchise for the Jennings Motor Group - Jennings Mazda opened in 2003 at Washington, and purchase of Arriva Ford in 2003 which later moved to the former Ferguson Transport Depot in 2006.

By 2004 it had added SEAT, Suburu and a Ford commercial site to the Middlesbrough site and in 2005 another management buyout made Nas Khan the Managing Director.

In 2007 Vertu paid £2.6m to Jennings Group for its Ford dealership in Morpeth and in 2010 it sold the Sunderland site to Sainsburys.

In 2012 Leeds Harley-Davidson opened under the management of Sohail Khan, Nas Khan's son. In 2015 the Jennings Motor Group officially took over the dealership after a Management buyout and it is due to open a second Harley-Davidson dealership in Gateshead later in 2016.

With the change to Kia in 2011 at the Washington Dealership, the company opened Britains biggest Kia Dealership at a new Stockton site in 2013 and added Mitsubishi to the Middlesbrough site.

Scr81 (talk) 16:52, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1984 Jennings purchased the Yarm Road dealership in Stockton on Teesside and later the Washington site. In 1995, the new managing director purchased the dealership in South Shield, after a buyout of the company from the Jennings family. The following year, a site in Gateshead was bought which now houses Jennings Ford Gateshead and the Transit Centre"... I started to edit it, but I now actually think that perhaps I was mistaken. Maybe you should just include the key purchases, or if you can't decide on any key ones, just do every other one etc. as this history of dealerships is going to be very long otherwise. jcc (tea and biscuits) 22:22, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I attempted to change it but it didn't work - is the new format an acceptable compromise? I've removed some of the information and condensed it wherever I can. I think keeping it split into decades makes it clearer. I removed the Jennings Harley-Davidson section and incorporated it into the later management section. Scr81 (talk) 10:21, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I personally think that it's fine, and if I were to review it now, I would accept it. I have formatted some of your images for you, now just resubmit it and see what another reviewer thinks! Good luck, jcc (tea and biscuits) 17:24, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Onel5969 was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:32, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Scr81 (talk) 10:54, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tseung Kwan O was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Tseung Kwan O (talk) 22:24, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Scr81. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Jennings Motor Group".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 07:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Jennings Motor Group (2). Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 22:35, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jennings Motor Group (2), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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DGG ( talk ) 03:57, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Chapelhouse motor group requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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A tag has been placed on Chapelhouse motor group requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather-summary.php3?cityname=Yorktown%2C+Texas%2C+United+States+of+America&s=359914&units. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Thanks for message. Some problems

• The article appeared to signifcantly copy from their website (not the US weather page tagged by the nominator!)
• You need to provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. You have relied rather heavily on their own website, mainly for history, which could be OK, but you need to consider how you use it, stick to facts
• The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:

1. significant coverage in
2. independent,
3. multiple,
4. reliable,
5. secondary sources.

Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability. Your other sources are generally pretty good, but the claim for the number of employees is unsourced

• it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Examples of unsourced or self-sourced claims presented as fact include: I felt this was a chance too good for us to pass up on, and now we’re determined to develop our reputation of one of the UK’s leading Suzuki franchises in the Preston area. The boss's opinion is rarely a good idea in an article, and reinforces why you need to be careful using their website as a source.

I've seen far worse, and I'll restore as a slightly cleaned up version if you wish, just let me know Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]