User talk:SilkTork

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SilkTork

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Our text should arise as a summary of the reliable sources, rather than editors first deciding what they want to say and then looking for sources. Agricolae

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story · music · places

The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - A meeting of two women - the occasion of the cantata - is pictured in our local church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2024 July regarding a requested move in which you have expressed interest. The thread is ABC News (United States). Thank you. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 00:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commented, and thanks for the notification. SilkTork (talk) 09:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not feel ECP on the page is necessary due to the relative infrequency of edits. I don't know how low it should be, but I propose no protection with pending changes. You can make it semi or no protection at all if you want but ECP is no longer necessary. If vandalism returns it could go higher. CharlieEdited (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little hesitant to reduce protection on a highly visible article (over 110,000 pageviews a month) which has been subjected to high levels of vandalism (1,690 reverted edits), and even with current protection gets vandalised: [1]. The article has continued to grow since protection ([2]), so the protection in itself has not stopped editing - despite a comment on the talkpage saying that is the case. What has happened is the number of edits has declined - the bulk of which were reverted: [3], but the quality of the edits has proportionally increased. The Extended-confirmed-protected edit requests on the talkpage are working as intended - with speedy responses. Because, before the semi-protection, there were over 200 IP edits a year, it would inappropriate to apply PC, as that is too many edits to monitor (PC is intended for "infrequently edited articles"). However, let us try semi-protection without ECP to see how it goes. ECP has now been removed. SilkTork (talk) 09:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Wondering why you moved Bed-ins for peace to Bed-in. The "ins" indicates more than one, and 'for peace' summarizes the reasoning behind the performance artwork, so the full name seemed adequate and descriptive. Shouldn't this have been an RM (unless it was and I missed it)? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I came upon the article and noted that the name apparently didn't meet WP:CRITERIA, so I did some research on the use of the name, and after looking into it, I changed it to fit the criteria. Recognizability - the most common use is "bed-in". Naturalness - the most natural use is "bed-in". Precision - "bed-in" is precise and exact. Concision - there is no need for superfluous words such "for peace", as "bed-in" is all that is needed. Consistency - it matches Sit-in, Human Be-In, etc. It is singular as that is what we prefer per WP:SINGULAR. I followed common usage in reliable sources such as [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], etc. "Bed-In For Peace" is also used, and may be regarded as the "official" title for the two main events, though even when the official name is used, journalists prefer to then use the simpler form of "bed-in". We prefer WP:Common names over WP:OFFICIALNAMES, so go by most common usage. I did a Google search for "bed-ins for peace" (10,300 results), "bed-in for peace" ( 122,000 results), and "bed-in" (90,300,000 results), and found that pretty significant. I also noted that while bed-in was a well established redirect, and the incoming links (mostly from templates) used "bed-ins for peace", there were still an average of 15 daily visits to the page ([9]), which would mainly be coming from those typing in "bed-in". As per Wikipedia:Moving a page, I didn't think that moving the name would be controversial given the reasons given above, so made the move. SilkTork (talk) 13:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the full answer. Since this was a performance artwork as well as an anti-war protest the only question seems to be 'what did John and Yoko call it'. 'Bed-in' seems to be the overall descriptor of the type of event (Sit-in, not Nashville sit-in, Be-in, etc.) but was it the name of the event? If not then Bed-in would be fine as a redirect but not as the article's title, which should be the name that Lennon and Oko used at the time (was it "Bed-In for Peace"?). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yoko calls it a "bed-in": [10]. And I do recall at the time that Lennon called it a "bed-in" as he introduced it - something like "It's a bed-in folks". I recall seeing that on the news. Hang on - I'll see if I can find that. Yes: [11]. SilkTork (talk) 19:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And I just found this: [12]. SilkTork (talk) 21:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, good find. Which leads to this, which could be used on the page if it isn't already. Notice Ono uses an uppercase 'I', here and in other sources (Bed-In). Randy Kryn (talk) 23:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I had noticed that; and some other sources also use that capitalisation. However, the bulk of the sources use "bed-in"; so, as we prefer WP:Common names over WP:OFFICIALNAMES, we tend to go with the most common usage. SilkTork (talk) 04:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Will keep it on my watchlist to see if any other editor (or Yoko) weighs in at the page. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

story · music · places

Today I have three "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about education, 10 years OTD after lecturing our founder). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk), but it wasn't recorded, substituted with a "Pacific" one that comes with subtitles line by line in Latin and English: I learned something! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help? My story today is about a woman, nominated for RD but needing support as I write this. A composer died whose article is long and mostly unreferenced. And some articles open for review, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am largely retired on Wikipedia. I've done little of significance for a while. I interfere in minor things randomly as I consult the encyclopedia - adjust some phrasing or spelling, or fix a name. That's all. I do have vague intentions of taking some article to GA or FA, such as Brewing, which I have tinkered with for some years now. And if I am to invest some time on Wikipedia, I guess it would be to finish off stuff like Brewing. Good luck with getting what you are after Gerda. SilkTork (talk) 17:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see. For the violinist, I achieved three supports, - now I need an admin to move her to the template In the news, but I was out all day and just returned from choir rehearsal. When I don't go out, I usually do things myself. The Goehr article, however, is more than I can handle alone in the remaining five days until his death will be no longer regarded as recent. I'm more hopeful that we can be successful than when I called for help because I found that large portions are simply copied from his publisher's biography, and can simply be rephrased or quoted. I remembered him on his birthday, and noticed then already that the article was in bad shape, and wished him a long life that we won't get into the situation we now face ;) - Did you notice that my DYK for his opera in 2019 was on 26 August, - his day of death? - I hope you keep reading. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:-) SilkTork (talk) 08:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With four supports, the violinist "made it" just before I went to bed. Goehr work is detailed on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In early December this year I'm going to request the Arbitration Committee to site ban me and also block my IP addresses. I should have all the former parishes project done before that. In terms of taking up too much community time I don't think this would be a problem as it would not be too difficult for the Arbitration Committee to simply pass a motion to site ban and block. An additional clause that could perhaps be added is that I can never appeal or that I can appeal after 10 years. I'm assuming WP:ARCA would be the correct place to make such a request although I might also ask for a concurrent community ban like what was done with User:Edgar181. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can block you on request. See WP:SELFBLOCK. This is much quicker and easier, with less drama and less bureaucracy, and is guaranteed to work; I don't know the Edgar181 story - I had resigned from ArbCom that year, before they were blocked, but ArbCom doesn't really do blocks on request. You could appeal the block, but set a condition that no admin grants your appeal for a year. Ten years is a long time, and people change, so most admins (including me) would listen sympathetically to a well worded appeal after a year or two. SilkTork (talk) 03:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm talking about an official ban not merely a block. You anyway stated "a future inappropriate request may result in a motion not to their advantage" last year which is what effectively this is. If such a request comes from the user then I don't see why unappealable or 10 year appeal time bans couldn't be set especially if they're enforced by IP blocks. We already have Category:Wikipedia users banned by the Arbitration Committee with 45 members so clearly the AC does deal with site bans. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The offer is there if you want to take advantage of it at any point. SilkTork (talk) 08:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]