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Hi @Xexerss, there are two respective new articles to create about two respective manga series, can you create them when you have time? They are The Food Diary of Miss Maid by Susumu Maeya and Hōkago Himitsu Club by Teppei Fukushima.

Thanks. Tebus19 (talk) 07:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tebus19: I'll try this weekend. Xexerss (talk) 07:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Xexerss (talk) 00:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Xexerss, there are two respective new articles to create about two respective manga series, can you create them? They are Rock wa Lady no Tashinamideshite by Hiroshi Fukuda (with a recently announced TV anime adaptation) and I Have a Crush at Work by Akamaru Enomoto.

Sources for Rock wa Lady no Tashinamideshite: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-07-22/hiroshi-fukuda-rock-wa-lady-no-tashinamideshite-manga-gets-tv-anime-adaptation-in-2025/.213470, https://natalie.mu/comic/news/583217

Thanks. Tebus19 (talk) 11:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tebus19: Okay, I'll try to create them soon. Xexerss (talk) 11:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xexerss Anyway, there's a Japanese article for Kawaii Kōhai ni Iwasaretai at ja:かわいい後輩に言わされたい. If you want, you could use it as a reference; I think the coverage present there should be plenty. Tebus19 (talk) 11:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tebus19: I checked it, but I was referring to having secondary sources discussing the series (even if it is some brief review or similar) and not just release reports. I admit that I myself have created articles many times overlooking this, but now I prefer to have sources of that nature to better demonstrate notability before creating an article. Xexerss (talk) 11:24, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tebus19:  Done. I'll probably keep creating a few more articles for a couple more days (mainly ones I've wanted to do since a long time), but I don't think I want to take any more requests for a while. Thanks for understanding. Xexerss (talk) 13:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found this interview involving the creation of Hunter x Hunter. It would be really useful to expand Gon and create one article for Killua but I have no idea what's its original source. Also I saw in twitter than Kurapika was based on TM Revolution but I can't find Togashi's original source either. If you happen to find it, tell me and I'll see if I can expand the Hunter x Hunter. I'm pretty sure Killua can easily get an article but I know nothing about his creation. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 23:11, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: These are the handwritten answers that Togashi gave for eleven questions that were read out on the Iwakura and Yoshizumi Show. I had never really heard about the thing about Kurapika and TM Revolution. That's interesting, but no idea where I could find where he said that. Xexerss (talk) 23:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. It's a shame. I'm pretty sure tv shows can be used as citations like Suguru Geto's article but I'm not sure how to turn it into citations. Tintor2 (talk) 23:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Template:Cite episode is available for that. You can put whatever comes to mind in the parameters, and if there are any errors, I can check it. Xexerss (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Togashi, Yoshihiro (November 2023). "Togashi's Q&A". イワクラと吉住の番組 (in Japanese). TV Asahi. Fuji TVhttps://hunterxhunter.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dardanidae/Togashi%E2%80%99s_Q%26A_on_%E2%80%9CIwakura_and_Yoshizumi%E2%80%99s_Show%E2%80%9D. {{cite episode}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); |transcript-url= missing title (help)

Is it like this? Still, it's kinda late here so I'll see if I can start editing more Gon and work on Killua's article tomorrow.Tintor2 (talk) 23:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: When you add it I will check it out. Xexerss (talk) 01:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to show you another tidbit about Killua which I fail to find the original https://x.com/killugon_hxh/status/1817604889045836067 Tintor2 (talk) 18:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: I assume (judging from the post) that this information is available in the booklet/DVD series Jump Ryu. I think the video is available on YouTube, as I remember watching it once there. Unfortunately, I don't know much Japanese, so I'm not sure if he mentions this on the DVD. Xexerss (talk) 18:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created Killua Zoldyck after finding some notable sources besides typical reception. I don't have too much knowledge about colored illustrations since I followed more Madhouse's series. Feel free to upload any image you find suitable.Tintor2 (talk) 22:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: For now I just made a correction in a citation. By the way, were you able to confirm that the stuff about Killua was said in the Jump Ryu video? Xexerss (talk) 23:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=F0br7ARLDQg The video is long an only has Japanese subtitles sadly. I'll ask the twitter user who showed me the other Togashi interview. Tintor2 (talk) 00:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, Aka actually directly confirmed in his twitter that Oshi no Ko takes place in the same world several years after the end of Kaguya's events. Even hinting that his next works will also follow this. Of course, this was also carried over into the anime. You can also see Kaguya's cameo in Oshi no Ko and B-Komachi in Kaguya. But I don't insist on returning this to the article, I just want to show that this really is not fan headcanon. Solaire the knight (talk) 14:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Solaire the knight: I'm not questioning the veracity of the information, but rather that the information can be verified with sources in the article. Xexerss (talk) 14:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understood, so I didn't intervene directly. I don't know if the SR link is right for you, but in general the author devoted several of his tweets to this and a few words in a later interview. Solaire the knight (talk) 14:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Solaire the knight Seems good to me. Feel free to add it to the article if you wish, although I don't know what would be the most appropriate section to include it. If not, I guess that just in lead would be enough for the time being. Xexerss (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe in the plot or character section as a quick note? Something like "since Oshi no Ko shares the same universe with the author's previous work" etc. Although it seems a bit over the top for just mentioning Kaguya's cameo and B-Komachi's poster in Hayasaka's prophetic dream. Or maybe mention it in the “creation” section somehow? If you want, I can move this topic to the title discussion page to discuss it with other users as well. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Solaire the knight: Yes, perhaps it would be better to know more opinions about it. Xexerss (talk) 16:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, then I'll create a thread on the talk page later and ask a question about the best option to add this to the article. Thanks for the dialogue! Solaire the knight (talk) 18:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for commenting, but I suggest mentioning the cameo in the only vital part that's worth mentioning. I don't have much knowledge about Oshi no Ko's arcs that weren't adapted but if Kaguya appears in the series, it is better mentioning her the cameo in her own seciton. Tintor2 (talk) 18:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kaguya already appeared in the first season when they mentioned a trend photographer. As for the show itself, I doubt that the adaptation will reach the end of the manga, since from what I heard, the creators were unhappy with the box office of the film and decided to end the adaptation there. But don't worry, I didn't think of writing anything monumental, just mentioning the connection and using Kaguya's appearance as an example. The poster of the trio from Hayasaka's dream about the future is just "interesting facts." Solaire the knight (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, may I trouble you to upload the key visual image from here to Dragon Ball Daima? Yours always look better than mine. lol Is there a free service that you use to resize, etc? I use Pixlr.com. You don't think the only reason yours look better is because I use jpg instead of png do you? Xfansd (talk) 02:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xfansd: Sure, I'll check it out right away. I use a program called "Radical Image Optimization Tool" (RIOT) which allows you to convert files to png format and resize them. Yeah, in fact I tend to convert them to png because jpg images don't look very good when I upload them here, even when they look as a good as if they were png images in my desktop. Xexerss (talk) 12:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening! I wanted to ask your advice regarding my appeal to Yuooadhdlxv. I noticed that they systematically correct or rewrite gender references in articles on anime and Japanese topics to make them as politically correct as possible and wrote to them that this was somewhat excessive, since in most situations references to gender either had an explicit context or were relative enough to do not require separate mitigation. But given that the gender issue is obviously quite sensitive, so I would like to hear your opinion as another participant in the project from the outside. I don't want this to be antagonistic to the user because their intentions are clearly good and also, judging by their input, it actually made sense in some cases (for example, replacing "hermaphrodite" with "androgynous"). Also, since English is not my native language, perhaps I could be wrong here too. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Solaire the knight: Hi. I've seen discussions on the project regarding gender identity and similar topics, but I have refrained from participating in them because, as you say, it's a sensitive topic and I don't know much about it to determine the best way to approach it. Perhaps it would be worth asking at WP:GENSTUD in case more knowledgeable editors have some inputs. Xexerss (talk) 17:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see, it's understandable. Thanks for the answer! For now I just created a thread on the user's talk page, I hope this doesn't go beyond a friendly conversation Solaire the knight (talk) 17:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re this edit, I had tried to find why Stand was capitalized, but came up short. Can you show me where/why it's a proper name? Dicklyon (talk) 04:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dicklyon: Hello. I had a similar question in the past regarding a similar issue. In the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series the Stands are powers/abilities exclusive of the series. The word is not used as common noun (e.g. "a halt for defense or resistance"; "a place or post where one stands"; "a place where a passenger vehicle stops or parks", etc.) As I understood from that previous discussion, the term should be capitalized. That said, I admit that I only stayed with what was pointed out in that discussion, so I may be missing something. If so, and you think I'm wrong, I'd appreciate it if you have any further explanation. Xexerss (talk) 04:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing how you got from there to capitalized Stand. Even in the "in world" term, it's a noun, but not a proper noun; a concept, not a thing. Without a good reason to cap it, I'd say let's not, per MOS:CAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 05:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dicklyon: Okay. Not that I personally care much about it. Without intending to allude to WP:WHATABOUT, but the term is also capitalized in the articles of the other series' parts (and their adaptations). I will not interfere if you decide to change it, but perhaps someone else had another reason to keep it capitalized. Xexerss (talk) 05:36, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see it's more than this article I was working on. I'll leave it for now, maybe discuss later some place. Dicklyon (talk) 14:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, User: Xexerss, I was just wondering how could I have messed up the table over the correction of a word because you list it as "vandalism" even though it's over the correction of one word which seems wrong? Can you at least provide an explanation on how correcting one word seems to be linked in with messing up The Elusive Samurai's table?

@79lives: I was referring to what you did here by removing the spacing without any explanation. On a separate note, when you start a discussion, please, do it at the bottom of the talk page, not at the top. Xexerss (talk) 20:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When you say the spacing do you mean by just by one space? Like as in one tap of the space bar? 79lives (talk) 06:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@79lives: I was referring to the change from leaving the parameters on top of each other (which makes viewing and editing easier) to leaving them all lumped together. Xexerss (talk) 06:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ok, sorry that. According to someone I asked on Wikis discord server, they said apparently visual editing does weird thing to tables. I'll try editing the table different to reduce these sort of issues. 79lives (talk) 08:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@79lives: Okay, thank you. At least now I understand why that was happening, since it's not the first time it has happened and I thought that editors were doing it on purpose. Xexerss (talk) 08:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can this source be trusted for assigning/changing the genre of Blood Blockade Battlefront? source-: https://kai-you.net/article/18457 https://kai-you.net/article/24384 Inuyasha4560 (talk) 10:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Inuyasha4560: I don't personally think it is an unreliable site, but I don't see why the genres currently listed in the article should be modified. Xexerss (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As you say. Inuyasha4560 (talk) 03:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ive seen comments that 12 for an episode list is too little so I wonder if You think we should create an article about the Heavenly Delusion anime alongside the list since there are creation and reception sources. Cheers. Tintor2 (talk) 11:41, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: If there is enough content to justify the split, I'd say yes. Xexerss (talk) 22:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean like Heavenly Delusion (TV series) and include the episode list in the article is the right option right? Tintor2 (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Yes. I think that there is enough content to make an article for the anime adaptation and include the episode list as well. Xexerss (talk) 23:04, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created Heavenly Delusion (TV series). Feel free to revise anything Tintor2 (talk) 05:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want me to send you a screenshot showing that the series is no longer on there? I don't know WHY it was removed, but it's gone. Poof. You had mentioned waiting until MF Ghost S2 was announced for simulcast, right? CR has announced that they're carrying the series as part of their Fall 2024 lineup, but no mention was made of Initial D returning. As for CR not making an announcement that the series was going to be removed, that's more or less SOP for them, unfortunately. I do not know why. Carguy1701 (talk) 16:39, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll also point out that I didn't speculate as to why it was removed this time, I merely stated that it was gone. As for Fifth Stage and Final Stage not being licensed, that is a known fact. They haven't been licensed. Carguy1701 (talk) 16:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Carguy1701: [The series] was removed from the Crunchyroll service on 1 July, 2024.

Where is the source explicitly indicating the specific date when the series was removed from the platform? This "proof" that you mentioned only serves to verify that the series is not currently available on the platform. It does not serve to prove that the series was removed on July 1, 2024, nor does it EXPLICITLY state that Crunchyroll lost the license to the series.

Fifth Stage and Final Stage have not been licensed by a North American distributor as of September 2024.

WP:MOS-AM#Media states to not include statements such as "The series was never released in the US" or "The manga has not been translated to English". Please, read WP:V; the issue with your edits are not about veracity, but the lack of verifiability with the content that you are adding. Xexerss (talk) 17:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone who was watching it on there could tell you that (I myself was sorta rewatching it)...but you're right, there was no announcement for its removal. Carguy1701 (talk) 17:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about this: note that the series was moved to Crunchyroll as part of the Funimation content library merger, but is no longer available through their service? Carguy1701 (talk) 17:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am very sorry it is my first article so I had stucked for months trying to do my best. It is originally translated from the Japanese article so it might not look right, thank you very much for fixing it.

If there is anything else I have done wrong please let me know, much appreciated!! WisteriaxLloyd (talk) 05:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WisteriaxLloyd: Hi. I assume good faith in the creation of the article. However, I think you should have kept working on this one as a draft and waited for the evaluation of some more experienced editor before moving it to the main space by yourself. I suggest you to read WP:MOS-AM and check the structure of other articles from the project to make adjustments. Xexerss (talk) 06:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! WisteriaxLloyd (talk) 06:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the spoilers on Chainsaw Man page because it was in the synopsis for the series rather than somewhere else. It is not valuable information to the general synopsis of the setting and series. Regardless, they are also inaccurate to how Devil death works in Chainsaw Man's universe, so I thought it a valuable removal. Devils reincarnate when they die, not get erased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.43.120.2 (talk) 14:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Thank you so much for approving the Doraemon circulation edit request. :D

But during the mean time, I have also gone down this rabbit hole of Black Jack circulation, finding many references of different numbers.

But so far, I think this source is the most accurate. Stating 47.66 Million copies sold in Japan only, stated according to Tezuka Productions in 2020. NHK is a very neutral, non-government funded and research attentive organization. Now, its contradicting the 50 million reported in 2012..

The source also concludes, although there are no definite statistics, it is said to have a circulation of more than 100 million copies. Which I think came from original research via "List of best-selling comic series" on Wikipedia, to which I have now removed, because the previous source cited either lacks credibility (AnimeAnime, pretty much CBR quality article) or a blog post (Nekoma) which shouldn't be referenced in the first place..

What do you think? RikaHonjo (talk) 14:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RikaHonjo: Hi. If I'm not mistaken, I think there were similar discussions in the past regarding the copies in circulation of Black Jack. I would prefer that this was discussed at Talk:List of best-selling manga and reach a consensus there, but unfortunately, it seems that there aren't many editors interested in this topic. On the one hand, I would say to use the most common figures given by recent reliable sources, but on the other hand, NHK is a reliable source as well, and the figure it gives comes from Tezuka Productions itself. If in Japan alone it is indicated that the series has 47.66 million copies in circulation, then obviously the worldwide circulation must be much higher, but given that they are not totally assuring the 100 million figures, I don't know what would be the best way to approach this. Perhaps we could just leave the copies in circulation in Japan alongside a note indicating that although there are sources stating 100 million copies worldwide, there are no official statistics that can assure this according to NHK, but this is just my stance. Xexerss (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. Sounds good to me :D

I have made 3 comments in the talk page prior, under "Black Jack Copies Sold Contradiction". And you can kind of see how I reached the conclusion.

Thanks RikaHonjo (talk) 05:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I read that Ashita no Joe was one of the biggest influences in manga history while writing the article for protagnist Joe Yabuki. I have seen paralels when comparing certain scenes between Joe and Pegasus Seiya in a website but I haven't seen a confirmation from Kurumada himself that he was inspired by Ashita no Joe to become a mangaka, especially since he wrote Ring ni Kakero while Saint Seiya was originally going to be a karate or boxing series in development. By any chance have you seen any interview where Kurumada confirms such influence? Might be useful for lots of articles. Tintor2 (talk) 20:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: I've read a couple of interviews where he mentioned the series, but not explicitly mentioning it as an influence for Saint Seiya or Pegasus Seiya. He may have said it somewhere, but I have no idea about that possible source. Xexerss (talk) 21:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About interviews I also couldn't find too much creation about Hanamichi Sakuragi from Slam Dunk despite his big history. It seems there is a contradiction about which real figure inspired Sakuragi like Dennis Rodman but I couldn't hear a confirmation from Inoue himself. Have you seen any interview involving that? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 22:40, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Nope, sorry. Xexerss (talk) 04:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guess the best action would be moving that theory to reception since it is disccused by third party sources. Tintor2 (talk) 18:09, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am a big fan of cel animation and I have done my fair share of research on the topic. The fact Astro boy is the last full cel animated show ever made is widely known and mentioned verbatim in the Japanese article for the show in Wikipedia. Gtoonm (talk) 22:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gtoonm: Please, read WP:VERIFIABILITYNOTTRUTH. Unfortunately your knowledge of the topic is not enough for a site that requires reliable sources to verify the information that you're adding. Read WP:CIRCULAR as well. Xexerss (talk) 22:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly, personal research should not apply. But in this very case I am using a reliable source, the properly sourced Japanese Wikipedia articles for both Astro Boy 2003 and Cel animation, which mention the details I wrote in my original change. Here is one of the sources if you don't believe me. Gtoonm (talk) 03:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gtoonm: It's not a matter of believing you or not, I'm telling you that if you are going to add such statements you should include the sources where the information can be verified (not other languages Wikipedia but the sources used there to support said statements). Xexerss (talk) 03:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not change the parameters order for no reason as you are trying to imply. Check out {{cite web}}, {{cite magazine}}, {{cite book}} ("Full parameter set in horizontal format"). I just brought order to the standard (before it was random: |publisher= at the end, etc). Second, I have no idea why you have a problem with capital letters. Is it a reason to persecute other editors for changing {{Transl}} to {{transl}}?

Regarding the hidden dates, they are based on this source in the article. Young Sunday's No.24 was issued on December 27, 1991 (cover on Comic Vine) (No.24 on Yahoo! Japan), and No.17 was issued on September 10, 1993 (cover on Comic Vine).

Now care to explain why you interrogate me in the first place? Russian Rocky (talk) 12:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Russian Rocky: I use Wikipedia:RefToolbar when adding citations and the standard order is the one that appeared before you made your edits. At what point did I "persecute" you? I just wanted to find out why you made those changes. Xexerss (talk) 12:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted my edits twice (first time with no explanation). If you really wanted to find out something, you'd ask it in the first place. Your preferred Wikipedia scripts aren't really an excuse for such a behavior, especially taking into account that the parameters order can vary between different citation templates-related scripts.--Russian Rocky (talk) 13:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Russian Rocky: I repeat that I had no idea why you were making those changes. To begin with, when you changed the order you just wrote in the edit summary "added Category:Anime and manga about werewolves using HotCat", which has nothing to do with these changes. If I didn't ask the first time it was because I thought you were just doing it out of personal preference. Now I know that it was because you were following the order of the template documentation, which does not coincide with the tool I use, and whose order is no less valid. Xexerss (talk) 13:35, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "and whose order is no less valid"? Do you really expect other editors to care about your preferred tool's parameters order, which isn't even publicly available? Notice that the parameters order varies even in your original version of the article "Lycanthrope Leo" (Revision as of 22:25, 30 January 2024).

1) <ref>{{cite web|script-title=ja:もふもふ獣人たちをもふもふしたい！オススメ漫画５選|url=https://mangapedia.com/gd/88amu0zac|website={{ill|Mangapedia|ja|マンガペディア}}|publisher=Voyage Group|access-date=January 30, 2024|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201210103534/https://mangapedia.com/gd/88amu0zac|archive-date=December 10, 2020|url-status=live|date=December 10, 2020}}</ref>

2) <ref name="Protoculture">{{cite journal|title=Lycanthrope Leo|journal=[[Protoculture Addicts]]|date=January 1994|number=26|page=8|url=https://archive.org/details/protoculture-addicts-29-compressed/Protoculture_Addicts_26_compressed/page/n7/mode/2up|access-date=January 30, 2024|publisher=Protoculture Inc.}}</ref> Russian Rocky (talk) 15:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Russian Rocky: The order is automatically added when using said tool. Do you want to stop now? I wanted to know why you changed the order, I know it was because you were going by what the document says, I get it. Really, you're making a bigger deal out of this than you should. Xexerss (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you get it, then why did you say "Now I know that it was because you were following the order of the template documentation, which does not coincide with the tool I use, and whose order is no less valid."? What does "no less valid" mean, if you personally admitted that there is basically no order and parameters are added automatically?

I'm sorry for disturbing you, but your words sound like you prohibit to change the parameters order in your articles, giving no clear reason for this. Russian Rocky (talk) 16:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Russian Rocky: If by using a tool from the own site the order is added by default, why would it be wrong to leave it at that? Which guideline or MOS indicate that it is mandatory that ALL citations must follow the order of the template documentation? I am not prohibiting anything, I am telling you for the third time that I wanted to know why you were modifying the order given by the tool; it is now clear to me why, but just as you do not expect editors to follow the order given by the tool, do you expect other editors using the tool to care if the given order matches the order of the document and to modify it manually afterwards? The tool is there to make it easy to fill in the parameters, and then taking the time to make sure that the order matches the order of the document would be nonsense, but if you are going to take the time and "fix" that, do it, at least I know that you are not changing the order arbitrarily, and that's enough for me. Xexerss (talk) 16:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say that the standard parameters order is mandatory (notice that WP:REF gives only links to citation templates and I have no idea where some tools' parameters order can be found without using them), but it's definitely not a reason to revert a whole edit. Though, your complaint would be legit, if I only changed the parameters order, which isn't the case here (I also fixed dates, used proper templates for magazines, added a category). My only fault is the edit summary apparently wasn't helpful for you, because I consider using the standard parameters order and fixing dates as minor changes.

By the way, what do you think about adding the original run dates to the article (December 27, 1991 – September 10, 1993)? It is clear that Young Sunday's No.24 was issued on December 27, 1991, and No.17 was issued on September 10, 1993 (see the covers above, No.24 "Contents" page on Yahoo! Japan), but additional sources can be needed. I added these dates using "invisible" comments (MOS:COMMENT) because they might be helpful for other editors, but you removed them. Russian Rocky (talk) 18:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Russian Rocky: I left the order of the template documentation and most of the other changes you added, can't you forget that already? what else do you want me to say? I removed the dates simply because there were no sources supporting them. Xexerss (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you need sources for "invisible" comments, which are only visible for editors, but anyway. I'm grateful that most of the changes were restored. Sorry for the inconvenience, I won't disturb you anymore. Russian Rocky (talk) 19:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the problem persists, what needs to be fixed? 2601:18A:817E:9960:0:0:0:6BA9 (talk) 11:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry about not explaining why I edited and shortened the plot of the Boruto story. I only did that because it had to be less longer, and I thought maybe when the next chapter would come, someone would be able to add more info of the chapter and the previous ones. 2601:18A:817E:9960:0:0:0:E235 (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]