Wikipedia talk:Current event templates

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There are cases where future events are indicated by the passage of laws, such as minimum wage laws, which indicate that something should occur at some future date, such as a minimum wage increase on a particular day in a future year (see for instance the Delaware entry at List of U.S. state minimum wages). Such legislation mandated events are quite common, I think, and I'm wondering if there would be support for a template to address those mandated but potentially non-occurring future events. I don't like two of the titles I've proposed here ('Future Law' or 'Future Legal') and the third feels awkward ('Law Mandated'), so perhaps you can come up with a better title. Regards, User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:04, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There should be a template like this:

This article contains information about a scheduled or expected future DVD release. It may contain unverified or unreliable information, and may not reflect the final version of the product.

DVD-Video bottom-side

Doodoobutter 22:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have somewhat of a problem with all the TV fans adding info to their favourite show, but now we are also having trouble with ppl putting warning signs up on all of these. There are currently 5 television related temporal templates in use. Hopefully there will be some discussion here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#Again_the_temporal_templates

Ugh. It's amazing to see how many templates sprung from {{Current}} and its related templates. There's way too many of them out there. Some of them are transcluded on a ridiculously small number of articles. As of this writing, {{Future amusement ride}} is linked to by a whopping two articles.

We really don't need most of these templates. Some of them I can't figure out. For example, {{current album}} - how exactly is a musical album current? It's not like an event that happens and ends eventually - as long as there are copies floating around, the album is still there. And {{currentsingles}} - how is a single current? There are a lot of different musical ranking charts around even just in the English speaking world. Plus, these tags sort of miss the point of the original current tag:

"The tag was created for two reasons:

1. So that users would know that the article was undergoing major revisions as events were happening.
2. So that editors would know the same so that they could keep that in mind if/when they decided to add to or edit the article."

Articles on "Current" albums or singles aren't likely to undergo any major revisions as the song remains on the "charts", whichever charts that refers to. And still, what pressing revisions would a "current" album or single have. "X album fell one spot to number 26 on Y chart this week" or something like that.

The point is, we should really curb the number of current and future event templates. Otherwise, we'll be having templates like:

This article documents a current pizzeria. Information may change rapidly as the pies bake and the cheese melts.

--Jtalledo (talk) 02:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given the proliferation of downright silly templates, it seems obvious that there should at least be a template to highlight current political events, such as the situation involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and the increasing pressure on him to resign. I propose

This article documents a current political event. Information may change rapidly as the situation develops.

I'll wait at least a week or two for comments. Ataru 22:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I remove the future template from 29th century and related articles, would anyone complain? It seems really unnecessary to have that template there, and just makes us look silly. ssepp^(talk) 21:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Rich Farmbrough, 13:54 18 January 2008 (GMT).

DO we need all these templates? Would

1. {{Ongoing event}}
2. {{Current event}}
3. {{Future event}}

do? Rich Farmbrough, 13:47 18 January 2008 (GMT).

• Yes, those could substitute for the proliferation of varieties of templates. Even so, each of the above three should be added rarely, if at all, since they are redundant, and add nothing that cannot be stated in the article title, article section title, text, or references. Further, {{current}} and its closely related templates were created merely to warn readers that an article or topic is being edited by many editors "today." -- Yellowdesk (talk) 01:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The future-templates are used in way too many articles. If the lead of the article is clear on that it describes a future event, and if the article is appropriate according to WP:FUTURE, there is no need to use a future event template. I think that this page should discourage the use of future templates on such articles. -- Kildor (talk) 13:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I kinda like that new Ambox icon style they're rolling out, and them I came across this:

With some color adjustments and a matching globe, it could look pretty nice. Think we should redo all the Current event templates to have this style? ViperSnake151 15:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sometime in the last six months all of the graphhics on these were updated. Best to findout what team did this and check with them. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 12:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Future music festival and 6 other similar templates has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Kildor (talk) 16:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There has been trouble with Template:Current being removed from articles about events which are obviously current, ongoing, and rapidly changing on the basis that there is not the large volume of editing associated with natural disasters, the deaths of celebrities, etc. There is no existing template which can substitute for template:current to warn the reader that an article is a current event subject to further evolution. Therefore the guidelines for template:current have been changed to reflect appropriate use of the template for current events which may occur over an extended period of time. Fred Talk 21:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Current displays here as This µ.... Can µ be substituted like in Template:Future? The fix probably requires editing a protected template. Certes (talk) 02:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking, maybe for stuff like templates on stuff in the future, maybe we should drop the big banner template here and do one of those things that puts an icon in the top-right like several other templates we have here (like {{pp-meta}}). Of course, where warrented, the usual banner should still be used, but think we should trial something like that? ViperSnake151  Talk  15:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion currently ongoing on the possible deprecation of this and similar templates at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Deprecating "Future" templates. Comments are welcome. --Conti|✉ 15:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Following a consensus for deprecate the future templates, I think this shall also be marked as historical. The Junk Police (reports|works) 12:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite, as Current event templates are still being used. This page could be moved to Wikipedia:Current event templates, tho, to reflect that discussion. --Conti|✉ 16:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All comments on the possible deprecation/deletion of {{Future}} and related templates would be much appreciated at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Deprecating "Future" templates. Thank you! –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For current information on this topic, see 2010–11 Oklahoma City Thunder season. <!-Do not show if mini is enabled--> (Learn how and when to remove this message)

In many articles about sports teams whose sports are in season, the {{Current sport-related}} template is used as a pointer to the article about the season. The template as used in the Oklahoma City Thunder article is at right. This usage is consistent with and recommended by the documentation of the template.

In an article about a team with a long history, the current season may not be discussed in the first two-thirds of the article, so the template provides a service to the reader who is looking for information on the current season. The link is also not present in the infobox. Therefore, the template provides significant value to the reader, even if it is not within the technical definition of a current event template.

I propose leaving these templates in place, either as an accepted use of the policy or until a replacement for the templates exists, either a spun-off version of the template ({{Active sports season}}, perhaps?) or until fields for the current and most recent season are added to the infoboxes—and across a number of sports, this could take some time. —C.Fred (talk) 16:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like the "active sports season" name, which distances it from the other on-wiki meaning of "current" (short-term, rapidly changing). In any case, the usage of "current sport" and "current sport-related" is clear consensus that its use is to indicate a specific season for a team, rather than "this information may rapidly evolve" like {{current}}. Perhaps the best/easiest thing would be to have a bot go through articlespace and rename/move the template to the "active sports season" name to avoid the confusion. tedder (talk) 16:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I support the idea of renaming the template to avoid confusion. While we're at it, it should be changed so that the small version is the standard one, and deprecate the large version currently seen at Template:Current sport-related. As far as I know, the large version is not used anyhow. --Conti|✉ 16:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Conti: copy it to its own template and make the small version the default (or only) version. —C.Fred (talk) 17:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with others. The context with which we use this template has certainly changed, and a rename would benefit everyone in preventing this confusion in the future. Resolute 17:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, it appears the TV people tend to use a hatnote to indicate a "current season". See the top of The Amazing Race for an example. I'm not suggesting that be done, just noting a similar use case. tedder (talk) 16:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another alternative method is to have the current season link inside the infobox, such as what {{NFL team}} does for NFL teams, {{Infobox NHL team}} for NHL teams, {{GrandSlamTournaments}} for the tennis grand slam tournaments, and the generic {{Infobox football club}}. One reason for this has to do with the aesthetics in the layout of the relative articles, and that the infobox is always at the top all season long, instead of having both the infobox and a constant temporal template up there. Secondly, it also avoids, such as this case, users and bots who may start to enforce the strict rules of WP:CET. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:19, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

TedderBot removes {{current}} templates from articles when they have not been edited for two hours, with the idea that the template should only be used for articles receiving so many edits in a short period of time that edit conflicts are likely, and not just to warn the reader that the article content may not be up to date for articles that describe current events subject to change. I see nothing in the documentation for the template to support this; on the contrary, it states: "Current and future event templates are designed to indicate that an article or a section is describing a current or future event, and to warn readers about the fast-changing or speculative nature of the article." The nature of the article does not depend on how recently the article has been edited; in fact, the longer ago the last update, the less likely the article is to be up to date. The documentation also states: "The current event template may be used optionally to warn the editor or reader about the great flux of edits and the fast-changing state of the article, due to the fact that current events tend to get the most attention from editors. In such a case, the template is subject to removal when the event described is no longer receiving massive editing attention." [Emphasis by underlining added by me.] Clearly, the use of the template for articles receiving many edits in a short time is a secondary purpose, and the quick removal after the flux of edits pertains only to this secondary use.  --Lambiam 13:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also not the next sentence in the documentation: "It is not intended to be used to mark an article that merely has recent news articles about the topic; if it were, hundreds of thousands of articles would have this template, with no informational consequence." as well as "Generally it is expected that this template and its closely related templates will appear on an article for less than a day; occasionally longer." Your cited sentences might need some rewording, but, basically, the use of the template for articles receiving many edits in a short time is the primary (and pretty much only) purpose of the template. --Conti|✉ 13:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

{{Update current event}} has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 10:35, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]