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I propose to radically pare down the list of airports in Texas due to WP:NOTDIRECTORY concerns. The list includes a truly epic number of redlinked airports that likely don't meet WP:GNG and WP:NBUILD. My impulse is to remove them outright per WP:NOTDIRECTORY but I would prefer to seek consensus whether WP:REDNO might be more appropriate. Discussion here. Carguychris (talk) 17:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may be right that there are too many trivial entries, but WP:NOTE is way too high a bar for list inclusion in most cases. Just don't link them, in preference to redlinks. Dicklyon (talk) 23:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added two maps to Nashville International Airport–one domestic and one international–back in mid September. It stayed that way for 2 weeks until Blissfield101 (talk) removed them, citing "the consensus was no maps" and "they clutter the page up." As far as I know, the simple solution is to have the maps be automatically be collapsed so that they must be manually opened. I believe this is a good compromise as the maps can stay but Blissfield and others do not have to see them if they believe they take up too much space. Bliss also has a history of removing content to trim down the page length according to his talk page. One other thing I want to note is Bliss pointed out that other large airports do not have maps. This seems ironic, how does removing content make a page better? Maps visualize the scale of the airport without having to look at a "cluttered" table of destinations. A lot of small airports have maps that feel unnecessary but are there to list three destinations. Yet Bliss doesn't want one that's shows almost 90? In the end, is having a closed map a good way to add content and reduce "clutter"? King airaglub (talk) 12:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He's making things up, there is no consensus to remove them. This has already been discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/Archive 19#Removal of maps by Blissfield101, where previous discussions are also linked. While I've advocated in favor of these in the past, I'm honestly not as into them as I used to be. Users adding/removing destinations from the table might not always do the same in the map since it's a little more complex to edit; I think linking these sections to external maps like flightconnections.com would also be fine. Reywas92^Talk 13:55, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had a feeling he was lying. I am glad somebody with a neutral stance on the topic was able to clarify this for me King airaglub (talk) 14:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. If you scroll down to the RFC I did on that very page, you will see 4-2 in favor of removal (of those who responded). Ultimately, they are difficult to maintain, redundant with the airline and destination table, not well laid out and having styling issues. Now a flightconnections.com link, I would very much be in favor of. Blissfield101 (talk) 16:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I remember there being discussions about maps with most users in favor of removing them. Difficult to maintain and look very cluttered, especially in the case of large airports like BNA. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 17:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC))[reply]

“Difficult to maintain” I don’t care, I do not mind updating these

maps. However if it is necessary I will try to fix overlapping airport names. flightconnections.com does not show future flights like MEM and KEF. I still do not understand why you will not accept my compromise-having them automatically be in the collapsed form. This allows you to not have to see them while they are still viewable to anybody that wants to. King airaglub (talk) 19:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you start an RfC on this then? The last discussion was over 2 years ago now with no consensus reached (despite more people being in favor of the maps being removed) so it may be good to get a new one going to get a firm consensus. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 21:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC))[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mboie Airport#Requested move 22 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 03:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Wembo Airport#Requested move 22 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Matsieng Air Strip#Requested move 22 September 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:05, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can somebody take a look at Sälen/Scandinavian Mountains Airport? The most recent edits make me very uneasy due to a promo concern but I am hesitant to revert. The Banner talk 14:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for vigilance, I share your concerns! But at a quick glance I can see nothing untoward, nothing blatantly unacceptable, and I do see a lot of references, generally a good sign, though I did not check them. Jan olieslagers (talk) 14:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a request to merge Lannion Airfield into Lannion–Côte de Granit Airport as coverage of the same topic, if it interests anybody here. ASUKITE 21:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is a flight tracker a reliable source for a connection? The Banner talk 14:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is in reference to Talk:Nashville International Airport#Vacation Express. I'd say no since they only follow a single plane once. Ought to indicate it's a regularly scheduled flight. Reywas92^Talk 16:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused on when an airline announces a route, how do we know if it is a resumption of service or if it is a new route? Most airlines will announce a route as “new” when in reality it is not. Jz0610 (talk) 16:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Who cares? Is it more than a semantical matter? Important is to know the current situation, history is for historicians. Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, we go by what the source says. If the source says resumption then use "resumes" if the source says it is a new route then use "begins". 2600:1700:8544:D000:9D0E:3239:A3E:70F8 (talk) 18:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user continues to add that Turkish Airlines will start service between Istanbul and Lima starting in June of next year. Me and several other editors have removed it referring him to the project page and discussion based on consensus but he continues to argue against it. Jz0610 (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where? Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jan olieslagers: I think at Jorge Chávez International Airport and Istanbul Airport if that's what you mean where. 2600:1700:8544:D000:9D0E:3239:A3E:70F8 (talk) 18:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]