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Hi there, 12eeWikiUser, and thank you for contributing so many informative articles on Africans and Africa, including quite a number in connection with Rwanda. After you drew my attention to the need for reviews, I've been looking carefully through your contributions, reviewing and assessing when necessary. You can see from your Xtools listing that of the 55 articles you have created, seven are rated B class and 20 C class. This is quite an achievement. I look forward to many more, especially if you could begin writing biographies of women in addition to those of men. Please alert me on my talk page if you need further assistance. Happy editing.--Ipigott (talk) 08:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ipigott,

Thank you so much for your careful assessment of my work. It's motivating to see that some of the articles I've created have been rated B and C class. I'm excited about the suggestion to increase my focus on writing biographies of women. I'll be sure to reach out on your talk page if I have any questions or need assistance. Looking forward to contributing more! 12eeWikiUser (talk) 10:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Dclemens1971, I thought I had followed your past advice. Why did you nominate this at this time? 24eeWikiUser (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think I was pretty clear in the nomination statement, where I provided an evaluation of every source in the article. Which sources did you think were WP:SIGCOV in secondary, independent, reliable sources? Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS, why did you move it into mainspace while it was still waiting for re-review at Articles for Creation? Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:55, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971, I created the article as an autoconfirmed user, and I don’t typically use AFC. However, I submitted it as a draft to receive feedback from other editors. During that time, I was also confused due to the comments you had shared in past nominations. The reviewer raised concerns, which I addressed, and then allowed the article to move to the main space for review. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 18:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article history shows the reviewer declined (diff), but it does not show that any reviewer "allowed" the article to move into main space. The history shows you moved it (diff). Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe, according to Wikipedia:Drafts, it is acceptable to move a draft into the mainspace. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 18:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that you have criticized every source I use, leaving me confused about what qualifies as a secondary, independent, and reliable source. For instance, regarding Forbes sources, you previously criticized the authors and referred to them as non-byline. I noticed strange comments on its recent sources. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 18:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Forbes source you used was a Forbes writer writing about the subject speaking on a panel at a Forbes event. It's not independent coverage of the subject; it's promotional coverage for Forbes' activities. (These are great questions to raise at the Teahouse, by the way, before publishing an article.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:23, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971, thank you. Let me take my time in pages you created and learn what qualifies as a secondary, independent, and reliable source. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 18:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not every source I use is secondary and independent, but every article, to pass WP:GNG, must have at least two sources that are secondary, reliable, and independent AND that show WP:SIGCOV of the subject -- unless a WP:SNG applies. For example, on Nestor Poltic, this and this would be considered SIGCOV in an independent, reliable, and secondary source, and thus the subject passes GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971, thank you. In Darrell Critch, which are these two? 24eeWikiUser (talk) 18:55, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one: https://livingchurch.org/news/news-anglican-communion/acna-priest-elected-bishop-in-madagascar/. Critch is covered by a quasi-SNG at WP:BISHOPS, by which Anglican Communion diocesan bishops are found to be presumptively notable. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971, Initially, it was hard for me to understand but thank you—I am satisfied now. Generally, it is difficult to save an article during an AfD discussion. Please, where possible, try to be a bit more tolerant before nominating articles for deletion. I edit Wikipedia passionately, and this is the first time I’m having such a hard time. Before publishing, I always ensure, to the best of my understanding, that a page deserves to be on Wikipedia. You are the first to consistently criticize my work this much, but I hope it helps me grow. I think it might be easier to judge a subject in a domain you are particularly interested in. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 19:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps. I am just doing my work as a New Page Reviewer. Before you begin writing a biography, why don't you bring your sources to the Teahouse and ask whether the volunteers there think there are enough sources to pass a notability guideline? Alternatively, next time you are preparing an article, I would be happy to review sources before you write it and offer my thoughts on whether they demonstrate the subject's notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, next time I will seek for help. 24eeWikiUser (talk) 19:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]