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Bolivian Presidents
[edit]Hi, Loving the work you have done on the Germán Busch page! I love learning about Bolivian history and it's somewhat safer than editing the pages of the living politicians lol. If there is anything I can help with, let me know. Also, do you know of any good books I can buy in Bolivia on the Presidents? Crmoorhead (talk) 20:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, Thanks for the comment, I'm glad my work is of interest to some people. Bolivia has a fascinating history that I believe many more people would get into if it was more easily accessible on Wikipedia. In terms of books, I'm not sure if you speak Spanish but if you do then the book I've used as a source quite often is Presidentes de Bolivia: entre urnas y fusiles written by ex-president and historian Carlos Mesa which documents the history of Bolivia's presidents and includes statistical tables of their cabinets, vice presidents, and terms, etc. Mesa is also one of the creators of "Bolivia Siglo XX" a series of hour long documentaries on the history of Bolivia if that interests you. They're all on YouTube. I hope that helps. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, yes I can read Spanish. I know of Siglo XX and have been procrastinating watching the YouTube videos for some time. My wife (who is a Bolivian national) has highly recommended it too, but the information in the book seems ideal, thanks! I have a short book on the Chaco War, but nothing else. There are big gaps in Bolivian history on Wikipedia and what is there is often very politically motivated from sources writing a long way from the country itself. I mainly started editing here because there was shocking discrepancy between what I see in English-speaking media and what I was reading from the daily news in Bolivia. It surprised me that it was so different, but it was a learning experience. Crmoorhead (talk) 14:22, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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- @Diannaa: Hi! Yeah, I have moved pages like that before. However, I stumbled on to a road block when moving. I tried to move Eduardo Rodríguez (politician) to Eduardo Rodríguez Veltzé but I was unable to as the latter page already exists as a redirect. Is there a method of moving one page to another page that already exists? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank you very much. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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Results tables
[edit]Hello. I noticed you are editing results tables, and leaving cells that previously had data blank, for example at 1993 Bolivian general election#Results. Please could you reinstate the content of these cells. Thanks, Number 57 22:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Number 57:Oh no issue. I'm trying to keep all general election pages in line. On the current 2020 Bolivian general election page, parties which were previously at 0 seats and gained 0 seats were left blank. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- They should not have been left blank. This is probably a legacy of the seat changes being uncertain and no-one has completed it yet (I have now filled it in). Please could you fill in all the blanks you have created on other articles. If a party had no seats before and won no seats, the change is 0. You can see this in the tables of previous elections (before you deleted the cells' contents). Cheers, Number 57 23:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, no problem. Thank you for the help. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- They should not have been left blank. This is probably a legacy of the seat changes being uncertain and no-one has completed it yet (I have now filled it in). Please could you fill in all the blanks you have created on other articles. If a party had no seats before and won no seats, the change is 0. You can see this in the tables of previous elections (before you deleted the cells' contents). Cheers, Number 57 23:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
2020 Table vs Table I Created
[edit]Party | Presidential candidate | Votes | % | Chamber | Senate | |||||||||
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Seats | +/– | Seats | +/– | |||||||||||
Movement for Socialism | Luis Arce | 3,393,978 | 55.10 | 75 | 8 | 21 | 0 | |||||||
Civic Community | Carlos Mesa | 1,775,943 | 28.83 | 39 | 11 | 11 | 3 | |||||||
Creemos | Luis Fernando Camacho | 862,184 | 14.00 | 16 | New | 4 | New | |||||||
Front For Victory | Chi Hyun Chung | 95,245 | 1.55 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
National Action Party of Bolivia | Feliciano Mamani | 31,770 | 0.51 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
Invalid/blank votes | 324,773 | – | – | – | – | – | ||||||||
Total | 6,483,893 | 100 | 130 | 0 | 36 | 0 | ||||||||
Registered voters/turnout | 7,332,926 | 88.42 | – | – | – | – | ||||||||
Source: OEP | ||||||||||||||
Note: The changes in seats per party noted above is in comparison with the annulled 2019 elections which were never enforced. The operational numbers during the interim period were consistent with the results of the 2014 Bolivian general election. |
Party | Presidential candidate | Votes | % | Chamber | Senate | |||||||||
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Seats | +/– | Seats | +/– | |||||||||||
Revolutionary Nationalist Movement | Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada | 585,890 | 35.56 | 52 | 12 | 17 | 8 | |||||||
Patriotic Accord (ADN-MIR) | Hugo Banzer | 346,811 | 21.05 | 35 | 36 | 8 | 13 | |||||||
Conscience of Fatherland | Carlos Palenque | 235,427 | 14.29 | 13 | 4 | 1 | 1 | |||||||
Solidarity Civic Unity | Max Fernández | 226,819 | 13.77 | 20 | New | 1 | New | |||||||
Free Bolivia Movement | Antonio Araníbar Quiroga | 88,260 | 5.36 | 7 | New | 0 | ||||||||
Bolivian Renewal Alliance | Casiano Ancalle Choque | 30,864 | 1.87 | 1 | New | 0 | ||||||||
Alternative to Democratic Socialism | Jerjes Justiniano Talavera | 30,286 | 1.84 | 1 | New | 0 | ||||||||
Revolutionary Vanguard of 9 April | Carlos Serrate Reich | 21,100 | 1.28 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
Bolivian Socialist Falange | José Mario Serrate Paz | 20,947 | 1.27 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
Pachakuti Axis | Félix Cárdenas Aguilar | 18,123 | 1.10 | 1 | New | 0 | ||||||||
United Left | Ramiro Velasco Romero | 16,137 | 0.98 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
National Katarista Movement | Fernando Untoja Choque | 12,681 | 0.77 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
National Organisation of Independents | Oscar Bonifáz | 8,096 | 0.49 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
Democratic Federalist Movement | Carlos Valverde | 6,269 | 0.38 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||
Invalid/blank votes | 83,599 | – | – | – | – | – | ||||||||
Total | 1,731,309 | 100 | 130 | 0 | 36 | 0 | ||||||||
Registered voters/turnout | 2,399,197 | 72.16 | – | – | – | – | ||||||||
Source: Mesa Gisbert[1] |
If there's another way to indicate that a party which previously had no seats and did not gain any seats than please let me know.
Edit war
[edit]The recent warring with the IP user has been solved. Crmoorhead (talk) 14:27, 5 December 2020 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Series_of_Mobile_edits_from_IP_user
- Oh thank goodness. That was quite strange. Thanks for telling me. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:33, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
CC deputies
[edit]I found a page listing all the deputies with some small amount of biography and photo. There are 39 listed here. Might be a useful resource. [2] Crmoorhead (talk) 02:09, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Very helpful, thank you. There seems to be a discrepancy between the amount of CC deputies elected in 2020 and the amount that there are in the Assembly. According to the Civic Community article and the list of Current members of the Plurinational Legislative Assembly, there are 41 CC deputies. However, most sources on election results show there to be 39 CC members. I'm looking into where these 2 extra deputies came from. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Mesa book
[edit]Hello. Do you have the Mesa book of election results? I am slightly puzzled by the claimed results of the 1913 and 1931 elections, which both had one candidate, but the number of candidate votes and valid votes is not the same. Were there 'against' votes, or possibly write-ins? Cheers, Number 57 22:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Number 57: I do have that book. According to the table on page 303, Ismael Montes ran unopposed in 1913 and won 98.86% (the article on Wikipedia says 98.87) with 77,731 votes. The total number of votes cast in the election were 78,622. Nothing is mentioned of 38,997 valid votes anywhere in the book.
- As for Daniel Salamanca, he won with 38,282 votes and 98.16% (the article says 98.17% so presumably one is rounding down while the other is rounding up). The total number of cast votes in 1931 were 38,997. Hence, the information on the article for the 1931 election is correct.
- The difference in total votes and votes for candidates is likely due to the fact that Mesa's book also includes the amount of votes cast which were deemed invalid. Therefore, the information on the 1931 election is correct while that of 1913 should be changed from 38,997 to 78,622. It appears that the 1913 article has made a mistake with the correct 78,622 having been put in the % section of the table. Though I have no clue where the 38,997 number came from. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:30, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! It looks like the 38,997 in the 1913 article is a leftover from the creator copying the text from the 1931 article – I've edited both per your comments.
- A related question – it looks like there may have been separate elections for the two vice presidents in 1913 (apparently there were in 1917) – was this the case, and if so, are figures in the book? Cheers, Number 57 12:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Mesa's book (at least the 3rd edition from 2003), does not seem to include vice presidential election results. The 1917 article cites Cáceres not Mesa so presumably only the former includes these statistics. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 16:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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- I intend to expand both pages with a list of all ministers and some general information soon. In the meantime, would it be acceptable to make both articles redirects to the Cabinet of Bolivia page in order for me to use the link itself on other articles. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 00:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]Perhaps you should take a step back and contemplate your own connections to the political situation in Bolivia and refrain from contributing to current events, especially in regards to the political situation of Bolivia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Other_categories_opf_COI Campaigning, political, vis a vis your self declared affiliation to the Civic Community. It seems, that your contributions have a lopsided angle. Your insight into Bolivia is valuable, but you should refrain from bringing a pov that's involved in the process. Best regards. Ip says: Work Better yes. (talk) 02:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Ip says: And that is precisely why I put my political affiliations there, in order to keep my own biases in check. And while yes the Civic Community is an opposition party, it was not affiliated with the Áñez government or her party for that matter. Even then, I have no strong connection to it and support it only in so far as it is the most left-leaning of the opposition groups. Personally, I have no strong opinion on whether the 2019 crisis was or wasn't a coup but nevertheless it remains a hotly discussed topic, especially in Bolivia itself where the answer is much more blurry than in other countries who seem to have made up their mind that it was for the most part. As such, and in keeping with neutral POV, I try my best to walk a very fine line when it comes to wording on the subject as I believe the reader of an article should come to their own conclusions without being led to a singular one (As an example: the 2019 Bolivian protests article seems to favor the anti-coup argument far more while the 2019 Bolivian political crisis article leans the other way). For that reason, I apologise if our edits have come into conflict but I am merely trying to keep sentence structure as neutral as possible, though I do accept that my over-caution may come off as bias. With that said, I appreciate you reaching out on my talk page, I hope this was explanatory and I also wish my best regards. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 06:19, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Just have to say i really appreciate your south American contributions. Looking through the edits you made, top notch. Ip says: Work Better yes. (talk) 21:41, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! I appreciate you keeping me in check in a cordial manner. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:45, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Just have to say i really appreciate your south American contributions. Looking through the edits you made, top notch. Ip says: Work Better yes. (talk) 21:41, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Woops sorry. I'll add it to the discussion, thanks for notifying me. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 18:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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Adriana Salvatierra
[edit]I read through the significant expansion of the article. Just one thing, though. She is still a Chilean citizen and as of right now is registered as a voter in Peñalolén. Her Chilean birth certificate does not include any mention to her supposed action (when this happens, a subinscription is performed). As a result, she did not actually renounce her nationality. The article implies she has, which she hasn't. Bedivere (talk) 14:59, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- The Spanish rendition of Salvatierra's article mentions that she is still registered to vote in Peñalolén as of 2021 but the citation is a non-clickable link to what appears to be a Chilean registry that I don't have access to. If you can provide a verifiable source that she is still a Chilean citizen, I'd be happy to correct the article. Until then, I can't really add any uncited information. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:53, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I do have the Peñalolén electoral registry. I can email it if you want. Bedivere (talk) 19:59, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, you can just link it here if you want. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:45, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the November 2021 registry, page 1840 --Bedivere (talk) 14:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- That is certainly interesting. Her presence on a 2021 Chilean electoral roll does evidence the theory Salvatierra may retain her Chilean citizenship. Still, I don't believe it's sufficient to outright claim that she lied about renouncing her nationality or to state that she somehow recovered it. On the other hand, it's substantial enough to warrant mention in the article. I added this note as a compromise: "As of 2021, Salvatierra remained registered on the Peñalolén commune's electoral roll, qualifying her to vote in that year's general elections. Still, it remains unclear whether or not this implies that she regained her Chilean citizenship or never renounced it at all. Article 11 of the Chilean Constitution outlines a method in which an individual may recover their nationality. However, Jorge Tarud, former president of the Chilean Foreign Relations Committee, considers that this option is only feasible for native Chileans, and "he never saw it applied" to Chilean nationals born abroad." Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:44, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- I can obtain her birth certificate and upload it to Commons, since it's freely licensed too. That also proves she hasn't renounced her citizenship. Anyway, keep up the good work. Bedivere (talk) 05:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Could you explain how her birth certificate would prove she hasn't renounced her citizenship? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 13:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- When someone renounces their citizenship, a subinscription is performed on the birth record, and as a consequence, also on any birth certificate. Bedivere (talk) 19:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- By the way, here is her Chilean birth certificate, just requested. I have to note that even when someone may renounce their Chilean nationality (and citizenship), it may be recovered at any time by requesting at either the Civil Registry or any Chilean consulate the removal of the renouncing subinscription/annotation. Bedivere (talk) 19:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- This certainly an interesting find. I have to ask, though, if you could please explain how a birth certificate from 2004 indicates that she maintains Chilean citizenship today. The fecha de emisión gives 26 April 2022, but I assume that just indicates the date in which you accessed the file. I'm not familiar with Chilean documentation, so perhaps you could point out the location of the subinscription showing Salvatierra's current nationality and not, say, the nationalities she would have held when this certificate was issued in 2004. I should also note that for this article to pass as a good article, any reference to her regaining her nationality is probably going to require a non-primary source. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- She was registered a Chilean national in 2004. The certificate I uploaded was issued today. It is based on the original record, including all annotations it may have (it has none). The certificate is not the same as the birth record, from which the first is based, which may still be obtained for about three dollars, online, at the Civil Registry website, but from my knowledge, it only contains some additional information to that of the certificate (such as the specific time of birth, the specific place of birth, the age of their parents, the name of the person who requested the inscription, to name some). Had she renounced her nationality, that would be included in the certificate and in the original record. Now, finding a non-primary source would be troublesome since the media reported unanimously she renounced her citizenship (which she hasn't). Bedivere (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have an idea. Just for you to be sure about this controversy. I will make a request to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs asking about Salvatierra's presumed renouncing of her citizenship and what's the status of such request, if it was ever made. It will take about a month for them to respond, maybe less if we're lucky. Bedivere (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I commend you for going above and beyond for this. An official statement on the matter is about as direct as we'll probably get without having to make inferences based on her birth certificate. I'll await for their response and edit the article accordingly. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and done the request. A response is expected by 24 May. Will keep you informed. Take care Bedivere (talk) 22:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I commend you for going above and beyond for this. An official statement on the matter is about as direct as we'll probably get without having to make inferences based on her birth certificate. I'll await for their response and edit the article accordingly. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have an idea. Just for you to be sure about this controversy. I will make a request to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs asking about Salvatierra's presumed renouncing of her citizenship and what's the status of such request, if it was ever made. It will take about a month for them to respond, maybe less if we're lucky. Bedivere (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- She was registered a Chilean national in 2004. The certificate I uploaded was issued today. It is based on the original record, including all annotations it may have (it has none). The certificate is not the same as the birth record, from which the first is based, which may still be obtained for about three dollars, online, at the Civil Registry website, but from my knowledge, it only contains some additional information to that of the certificate (such as the specific time of birth, the specific place of birth, the age of their parents, the name of the person who requested the inscription, to name some). Had she renounced her nationality, that would be included in the certificate and in the original record. Now, finding a non-primary source would be troublesome since the media reported unanimously she renounced her citizenship (which she hasn't). Bedivere (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- This certainly an interesting find. I have to ask, though, if you could please explain how a birth certificate from 2004 indicates that she maintains Chilean citizenship today. The fecha de emisión gives 26 April 2022, but I assume that just indicates the date in which you accessed the file. I'm not familiar with Chilean documentation, so perhaps you could point out the location of the subinscription showing Salvatierra's current nationality and not, say, the nationalities she would have held when this certificate was issued in 2004. I should also note that for this article to pass as a good article, any reference to her regaining her nationality is probably going to require a non-primary source. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- By the way, here is her Chilean birth certificate, just requested. I have to note that even when someone may renounce their Chilean nationality (and citizenship), it may be recovered at any time by requesting at either the Civil Registry or any Chilean consulate the removal of the renouncing subinscription/annotation. Bedivere (talk) 19:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- When someone renounces their citizenship, a subinscription is performed on the birth record, and as a consequence, also on any birth certificate. Bedivere (talk) 19:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Could you explain how her birth certificate would prove she hasn't renounced her citizenship? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 13:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I can obtain her birth certificate and upload it to Commons, since it's freely licensed too. That also proves she hasn't renounced her citizenship. Anyway, keep up the good work. Bedivere (talk) 05:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- That is certainly interesting. Her presence on a 2021 Chilean electoral roll does evidence the theory Salvatierra may retain her Chilean citizenship. Still, I don't believe it's sufficient to outright claim that she lied about renouncing her nationality or to state that she somehow recovered it. On the other hand, it's substantial enough to warrant mention in the article. I added this note as a compromise: "As of 2021, Salvatierra remained registered on the Peñalolén commune's electoral roll, qualifying her to vote in that year's general elections. Still, it remains unclear whether or not this implies that she regained her Chilean citizenship or never renounced it at all. Article 11 of the Chilean Constitution outlines a method in which an individual may recover their nationality. However, Jorge Tarud, former president of the Chilean Foreign Relations Committee, considers that this option is only feasible for native Chileans, and "he never saw it applied" to Chilean nationals born abroad." Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:44, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the November 2021 registry, page 1840 --Bedivere (talk) 14:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, you can just link it here if you want. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:45, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I do have the Peñalolén electoral registry. I can email it if you want. Bedivere (talk) 19:59, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I didn't want to do the following myself without telling you first. I wanted to change the wording of the phrase "For some time, she was also registered with the Chilean Electoral Service (SERVEL), authorizing her to vote in the Peñalolén electoral district of the Santiago Metropolitan Region". Salvatierra is still a registered voter in Peñalolén as of right now. You can check this by yourself on http://consulta.servel.cl, and inserting her RUN 21442684-6. (As a result, too, she is still a Chilean citizen). Bedivere (talk) 04:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- 2021 is the most recent direct source for her presence on an electoral registry. Having readers enter her number into a website falls too deeply into Wikipedia:No original research for my liking. I saw that you added an extra sentence mentioning her birth certificate and linking to the Wikimedia image. Personally, I also think that may fall within original research but I'd say leave it as its for now. Alternatively, given that you've found a significant amount of evidence, you could theoretically submit your findings to a Bolivian newspaper such as Página Siete. If they choose to publish it, all of this could easily be added. Whether or not you'd want to put that kind of spotlight on a currently pregnant mother-to-be is up to you I suppose. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:48, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's correct. I didn't suggest, though, to add the Consulta.servel site as a reference, but rather, rewording the mentioned phrase to imply they are still registered as a voter in 2022. It currently suggest they are not ("for some time, she was..."). I can't think of any other way to use that site as a reference, though. Bedivere (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- The note already mentions that she remains registered to vote in Chile as of at least last year. That should be sufficient. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded yesterday (Tuesday) there are two documents related to the matter: * Oficio Reservado 8/2019 of the General Consulate of Chile in La Paz, which has attached the declaration of Salvatierra renouncing her nationality. It contains her Bolivian and Chilean birth certificate, formularies completed and signed by Salvatierra, copies of her Bolivian passport and Chilean ID card. * Oficio (DISER-DECIV) Público N.° 4850, by Subdirector of Consular Services, 2020, directed at the chief of Nationality Section, Department of Migration, which sends the documentation included in the aforementioned Oficio Reservado N.° 8/2019. I was given access to the 2020 document, but not to the documents it had attached. The 2020 document signed by Lorena Guzman Núñez requests an "Acta Literal" (literal act / a copy of the birth registry) with the annotation of the nationality renunciation, "as soon as possible, in order to notify the interested person". The birth certificate makes no mention of such annotation, though. As a result, it seems that Salvatierra did renounce to her Chilean nationality, but it hasn't been legalized yet. She hasn't so far requested to annul such renunciation. Bedivere (talk) 04:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Aha, wonderful. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it all came down to slow Latin American bureaucracy—I remember the absolute slog of dealing with Bolivian customs back in the day. So she did renounce her nationality but it just hasn't been processed yet. I'd appreciate if you could forward what the Foreign Ministry sent to you to me, I have some uses for it. Aside from that, what do you think we do now? For intents and purposes, it appears she is no longer a Chilean citizen. Should we just remove the note on the article? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 04:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, legally she still is a Chilean citizen, besides the fact that she obviously does not want to be one. I think we should remove the note once Salvatierra actually loses the nationality. I can send the censored Oficio of 2020. Bedivere (talk) 15:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Send me the censored officio and I'll see what I can come up with using it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- there you go Bedivere (talk) 01:38, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Just as an update, Salvatierra remains enabled to vote in Chile, this time for the 17 December plebiscite. Weird thing isn't it. Bedivere (talk) 03:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- I imagine she might remained qualified until the Chilean government finally gets around the annulling her citizenship. Does Chile automatically register voters or are they required to register themselves as in the U.S.? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 03:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Just as an update, Salvatierra remains enabled to vote in Chile, this time for the 17 December plebiscite. Weird thing isn't it. Bedivere (talk) 03:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- there you go Bedivere (talk) 01:38, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Send me the censored officio and I'll see what I can come up with using it. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 15:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, legally she still is a Chilean citizen, besides the fact that she obviously does not want to be one. I think we should remove the note once Salvatierra actually loses the nationality. I can send the censored Oficio of 2020. Bedivere (talk) 15:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Aha, wonderful. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it all came down to slow Latin American bureaucracy—I remember the absolute slog of dealing with Bolivian customs back in the day. So she did renounce her nationality but it just hasn't been processed yet. I'd appreciate if you could forward what the Foreign Ministry sent to you to me, I have some uses for it. Aside from that, what do you think we do now? For intents and purposes, it appears she is no longer a Chilean citizen. Should we just remove the note on the article? Krisgabwoosh (talk) 04:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- The Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded yesterday (Tuesday) there are two documents related to the matter: * Oficio Reservado 8/2019 of the General Consulate of Chile in La Paz, which has attached the declaration of Salvatierra renouncing her nationality. It contains her Bolivian and Chilean birth certificate, formularies completed and signed by Salvatierra, copies of her Bolivian passport and Chilean ID card. * Oficio (DISER-DECIV) Público N.° 4850, by Subdirector of Consular Services, 2020, directed at the chief of Nationality Section, Department of Migration, which sends the documentation included in the aforementioned Oficio Reservado N.° 8/2019. I was given access to the 2020 document, but not to the documents it had attached. The 2020 document signed by Lorena Guzman Núñez requests an "Acta Literal" (literal act / a copy of the birth registry) with the annotation of the nationality renunciation, "as soon as possible, in order to notify the interested person". The birth certificate makes no mention of such annotation, though. As a result, it seems that Salvatierra did renounce to her Chilean nationality, but it hasn't been legalized yet. She hasn't so far requested to annul such renunciation. Bedivere (talk) 04:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- The note already mentions that she remains registered to vote in Chile as of at least last year. That should be sufficient. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's correct. I didn't suggest, though, to add the Consulta.servel site as a reference, but rather, rewording the mentioned phrase to imply they are still registered as a voter in 2022. It currently suggest they are not ("for some time, she was..."). I can't think of any other way to use that site as a reference, though. Bedivere (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello! I love your work on the 3rd Plurinational Legislative Assembly of Bolivia page! Congratulations on getting it to GA status as well! While I was reading it, I came across the "Special seats" that are in the Chamber of deputies, with no explanation as to what they are. This isn't a call to action by any means (though it could be a way to expand the article if you see fit) but more of a question as to what they are per se. I would love to know more about them, how they are elected, and what they represent! Ornithoptera (talk) 01:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: Firstly, thank you very much for your kind words. As for special seats, they refer to the seven "special indigenous circumscriptions" in the county. They were established with the promulgation of the 2009 Constitution. Though they're technically "districts" each one makes up an entire department, with only Chuquisaca and Potosí not having one. According to article 146 of the Constitution, these districts exist "only in rural areas and in those departments in which these rural native indigenous peoples and nations constitute a minority of the population". From what I understand, they're meant to give minority indigenous groups representation, with only some 100,000 people of Bolivia's 10 million population being authorized to vote in them. That is, specific members of minority indigenous groups in each department are the only ones who can vote here. You can read a full summary of special circumscriptions here.[3] Personally, I don't feel like an explanation of them really fits in the article on the 3rd assembly. However, an explanation of them should definitely be included somewhere, likely on either the Plurinational Legislative Assembly or Chamber of Deputies articles. At the moment, however, both of those are quite barebones and I like to fully rewrite articles rather than tweak only certain sections. More importantly, I don't as of yet feel fully confident writing about it, as I haven't done quite in depth research on how exactly they work, whose authorized to vote in them, etc. Anyway, hopefully that was helpful! Thanks again for the kind comment. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:14, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the in-depth response! I really do find topics such as these fascinating and I do appreciate the interesting amount of detail being put into it. I've really learned a lot. I do look forward to your eventual rewrites of those topics, if you are able to, keep me in mind and I would love to give it a read through! You could potentially add it to this article: Reserved political positions if you see fit! I think this is a genuinely fascinating fact and I genuinely appreciate the illumination on the matter! Thank you so much, and you are very welcome, your hard work is definitely appreciated! Ornithoptera (talk) 06:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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- ^ Gisbert, pp. 175
- ^ https://www.paginasiete.bo/especial02/2020/10/28/los-130-nuevos-diputados-uninominales-plurinominales-de-circunscripciones-especiales-273083.html
- ^ Marca, Juan Pablo (2020-10-18). "Las circunscripciones especiales indígenas". Página Siete (in Spanish). La Paz. Retrieved 2022-05-14.
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- Totally agree! My original intent was indeed to eventually split prosecution into its own article, though admittedly I had hoped to have gotten around to it sooner. Given recent expansion (and edit warring) I had actually been thinking about withdrawing the nomination (the only thing stopping me was my inability to figure out how, lol), so I appreciate the quickfail. I'll renominate the article once the prosecution section (at the very least) has been split and also meets GA standards. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:11, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Thank you for your comments on my proposed DYK for Edward Rand. I would like to enter the changes you suggested, but I'm not sure how to via source editing. Is it possible if you could do so or how I might be able to? GuardianH (talk) 17:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Hey Kris! Great work on Bolivian people, I'll say it in Spanish for better understanding: has hecho una labor muy encomiable.
I saw this edit today on Salvatierra's article and I have to tell you that it is inappropriate to imply she was a Chilean national from age of fourteen; she was a Chilean from birth, as the child of a Chilean national; Chilean law contemplates ius sanguini. The 2019 date is also doubtful; she declared her renounciation that year, but as we talked about before, such renounciation has not been completed and in fact, she was eligible to vote last 4 September in the national plebiscite. She obviously remains a Chilean citizen. Perhaps the 2019 date could remain but clarifying that, although she renounced the citizenship that year, it hasn't been legally formalized.
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- Hi! Thank you for the kind words. I'm actually in the midst of transculding our previous discussion on the topic to Salvatierra's talk page, with my reasoning for keeping the resignation date to 2019. As for your main concern, I can explain the issue. While Chilean law grants citizenship to all people born to Chilean nationals, the Bolivian Constitution did not allow for dual citizenship until 2004. See Carlos Mesa#Constitutional reform. This explains why her mother only registered her Chilean citizenship when she was fourteen (precisely in 2004). Krisgabwoosh (talk) 01:05, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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Women in Red
[edit]Hi there, Krisgabwoosh. I'm glad to see you've added the Women in Red user box to your user page, especially as you have created a number of well developed biographies of women. If you would like to become a member, you can do so by linking to "Join Women in Red" on our WikiProject page. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 18:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder, I've gone ahead and done so. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Great! So welcome to Women in Red. I realize your biographies are already of a high standard but if you have not already done so, you might like to browse through some of our Essays, particularly our Primer. Please let me know if ever you run into difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 07:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red in December 2022
[edit]Women in Red December 2022, Vol 8, Issue 12, Nos 214, 217, 248, 249, 250
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María Elva Pinckert DYK
[edit]Hi. Your María Elva Pinckert hook is queued up to run in a couple of days, but there's one thing that needs to be fixed. DYK rules require the fact in the hook to have a citation at the end of the sentence in the article, which I guess would be In 1999, Pinckert moved into local politics, motivated by the murder of her brother, who was unable to receive the necessary intensive care due to the lack of medical units in the region
. Could you add that please? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron and Onegreatjoke: FYI. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:41, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Done Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:48, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bolivian people of Chiquitano descent
[edit]A tag has been placed on Category:Bolivian people of Chiquitano descent indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 01:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Feel free to delete it now. The category is too narrow and is unnecessary now that Category:Bolivian politicians of indigenous peoples descent exists. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red January 2023
[edit]Happy New Year from Women in Red | January 2023, Volume 9, Issue 1, Nos 250, 251, 252, 253, 254
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An invitation
[edit]Hi! I saw your comment in the GA nomination review for Tomas Frias. I wanted ask you personally if you might participate given your extensive knowledge of Bolivian history and to ensure at least two people agree that it is an article worthy of the GA status. CondeDeHolderness (talk)
- @CondeDeHolderness: I'd be happy to observe the review process. I hope that I did not come out as accusatory, but given this article's recent history, hopefully you'll understand my suspicion. Thanks for reaching out! Krisgabwoosh (talk) 07:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Translations
[edit]I really like your articles on Bolivian politicians, it is great to see such an underrepresented area on Wikipedia get some attention! Have you considered adding English translations for the sources you are using, since most of them are in Spanish? I.e. using the "trans-title" field of the Cite news template. This would help a lot for people like me who don't speak Spanish =) Thanks for your work so far and I hope we will see many more articles on the subject from you! 37.197.180.150 (talk) 09:21, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the positive feedback! In terms of title translations, I never really considered using them, but if people find it useful, I guess I could start adding them in newer articles. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 09:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that! I look forward to your future articles! 37.197.180.150 (talk) 10:24, 14 January 2023 (UTC)